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WASHINGTON –  On the same day that President Barack Obama declared his support for same-sex marriage, the House Armed Services Committee backed measures prohibiting the practice on U.S. military bases.

The panel stepped into the gays in the military issue as it considered a sweeping, $642 billion defense bill for next year that buys new weapons, ships and aircraft, increases military pay by 1.7 percent and sets policies for the Pentagon. The committee worked through the day Wednesday and into the early morning Thursday on the legislation that adds billions of dollars to the president's budget request.

The committee fleshed out a blueprint for next year that calls for a base defense budget of $554 billion, including nuclear weapons spending, plus $88 billion for the war in Afghanistan and counterterrorism efforts. That compares with the administration's proposal of $551 billion, plus $88 billion.

Conservative Republicans still angry with the end to the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays in the military pressed two measures.

"The president has repealed `don't ask, don't tell' and is using the military as props to promote his gay agenda," said Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., who is running for Senate.

The committee, on a vote of 37-24, backed an amendment that barred same-sex marriages or "marriage-like" ceremonies on military installations. The panel also endorsed an Akin amendment that said the services should accommodate the rights of conscience of members of the services and chaplains who are morally or religiously opposed to expressions of human sexuality

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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 08:10:43 AM »
One thing I was never able to fathom while I was on AD was why married guys always (and I mean ALWAYS) got the "good deal."  Better pay (FSA, married RATS/BAS, housing, etc.) better duty (don't tell me it didn't happen), and commands more willing to accomodate "family issues."

Frankly, it should have been and should be one payscale, regardless of marital status.  What you bring home twice a month should depend more on what you have on your sleeve, not on your finger.

Take that away from teh gheys and see how eager they are to tie the knot, knowing there's no extra bennies (aside from possible medical care for their "spouses".)
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 08:20:24 AM »
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 08:34:37 PM »
One thing I was never able to fathom while I was on AD was why married guys always (and I mean ALWAYS) got the "good deal."  Better pay (FSA, married RATS/BAS, housing, etc.) better duty (don't tell me it didn't happen), and commands more willing to accomodate "family issues."

Frankly, it should have been and should be one payscale, regardless of marital status.  What you bring home twice a month should depend more on what you have on your sleeve, not on your finger.

Take that away from teh gheys and see how eager they are to tie the knot, knowing there's no extra bennies (aside from possible medical care for their "spouses".)

Do you expect only single folks to enlist and serve?  Married service members need to be able to support more than just themselves.  Let's face it...  Base pay isn't all that great in our armed services.   You sure can't support a wife and child on it.  At least not back when I 1st enlisted.

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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2012, 06:28:50 PM »
Do you expect only single folks to enlist and serve?  Married service members need to be able to support more than just themselves.  Let's face it...  Base pay isn't all that great in our armed services.   You sure can't support a wife and child on it.  At least not back when I 1st enlisted.



Tell ya what--go to a civilian company and tell that guy who's single he doesn't deserve the same compensation as the guy in the same job doing the same work just because he's married.

There's a very good reason why there are enlistment waivers (or outright barriers) for people trying to join with 2 or more dependents--and the spouse counts as one.
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2012, 08:57:06 PM »
One thing I was never able to fathom while I was on AD was why married guys always (and I mean ALWAYS) got the "good deal."  Better pay (FSA, married RATS/BAS, housing, etc.) better duty (don't tell me it didn't happen), and commands more willing to accomodate "family issues."

Frankly, it should have been and should be one payscale, regardless of marital status.  What you bring home twice a month should depend more on what you have on your sleeve, not on your finger.

Take that away from teh gheys and see how eager they are to tie the knot, knowing there's no extra bennies (aside from possible medical care for their "spouses".)

There were a lot of "contract" marriages when I was in, guys would hook up with and marry a chick so they could get BAS, BAQ and so forth and the woman could get PX privileges and health care. Basically they would get married and not even live together. 
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2012, 09:31:14 PM »
The Marines used to have a policy that prevented their junior enlisted from getting married. I'm not sure if they still do though.
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2012, 11:00:43 PM »
The Marines used to have a policy that prevented their junior enlisted from getting married. I'm not sure if they still do though.

When i was in the Army you needed the permission of your CO to get married, but it was more a formality than anything else.
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2012, 11:01:36 PM »
The Marines used to have a policy that prevented their junior enlisted from getting married. I'm not sure if they still do though.

Must have been quite awhile back.  I was enlisted in '82 - '04 and that was never policy to my knowledge, unless maybe it was a local policy at some commands.  I spent most of my early years at MCAS Tustin and El Toro, and I heard a lot of stories about guys doing the contract marriage thing in order to get out of the barracks and afford an apartment in pricey Orange County.

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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 02:59:10 AM »
There were a lot of "contract" marriages when I was in, guys would hook up with and marry a chick so they could get BAS, BAQ and so forth and the woman could get PX privileges and health care. Basically they would get married and not even live together. 

Still happens every deployment. 
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2012, 12:32:37 PM »
And still just as screwed up.
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Re: House panel votes to ban same-sex marriages on US military bases
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 03:51:53 PM »
Tell ya what--go to a civilian company and tell that guy who's single he doesn't deserve the same compensation as the guy in the same job doing the same work just because he's married.

There's a very good reason why there are enlistment waivers (or outright barriers) for people trying to join with 2 or more dependents--and the spouse counts as one.

This is the 1st I've heard of such waivers or barriers.  I don't think they were in place when I enlisted.  At least they weren't mentioned to me.

If the military stops pay BAS and BAQ for married services members, I suspect their won't be too many married folks lining up to enlist.  But if the military is drawing down, there won't be much need for them.
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