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loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« on: May 06, 2012, 01:08:35 PM »
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Oh my.

This is from the loners' forum on Skins's island.

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dixiegrrrrl (24,121 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

What are some of the things you like best about solitude?

The really important aspects of being/living alone ( or with someone else with whom you can be in your own space -a LOT)?

since I have retired, un-interrrupted hours are my greatest pleasure...no "have to's," as a rule.

No schedules, freedom to read and think without time pressures.

You.....?

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1. The quiet. My quiet. im no longer a tuning fork for every idiot with a ball peterc hammer.

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knowbody0 (8,306 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. the stillness

occasionally, I turn the circuit breaker off so the hum of electricity stops as well. almost nirvana

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dixiegrrrrl (24,121 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. Where I am, almost all the time, all I hear is the ticking of the clocks.

and sounds of birds around the house.

I think that is one of the reasons I do not even play much music..the silence is so preferable.

franksolich is confused here.

The lonely primitives seem to equate "silence" with "solitude."

Additionally, the primitives seem to think that if one lives way out in the wild, as does franksolich, the nearest neighbor six miles away, one's in "solitude."

Ha.

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4. It's safe and quiet and you can read and think hard without being distracted.

Once the light show in my head turned on as a kid, it was always the highest prioriity. The real secret of life is when you realize that "work" can be a lot more fun than "fun".

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MadrasT (3,144 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. No negotiating

No negotiating with anyone else about how I use my time or what to eat for dinner or what to watch on teevee or anything else.

I get to do whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

And perfect silence whenever I want or need it.

*awesome*

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12. Nobody is trying to get my attention.

No people who, uncomfortable with quiet, keep trying to fill it. No one interrupting whatever is going on in my head because, since I'm not talking, I must be available for whatever they need.

No gnats.

Edited to add: As long as I turn off the phone, of course. I can't leave it off for too long, though, or someone will show up to find out why I'm not answering, assuming that something's wrong.

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13. "uncomfortable with quiet"

That IS amazing, isn't it?

took me way too long to realize that a LOT of people cannot bear the sound of solitude.

One of the things that endeared me to Chris Hedges was he mentioned he has no tv or radio, that he spends at least 4 hours a day reading.

Valuing the comtemplative life....worth all the "tradeoffs" to me.

btw..I have managed to train the people in this area to accept talking to the answering machine, and I leave the volume on mute...works a treat.

Well, I still dunno about this whole deal of silence and solitude.

As for the "silence" part, my own world's that way anyway, 24/7/365, my never having had a choice in the matter.

But as for "solitude," that never happens, not even in the middle of the night when all is serene and quiet.
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 01:15:20 PM »
It's funny--some of the most peaceful times I've had have been on a watch, while deer hunting.  The forest and all of its' creatures.  It really drives home the point that God really did make a Great Creation in Earth.
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 01:44:56 PM »
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2. the stillness

occasionally, I turn the circuit breaker off so the hum of electricity stops as well. almost nirvana

Liar.

Unless this nobody have been on a buying hiatus for the last 30 years, he has several programmable items that would need to be reset when the power was turned back on.

His moment of nirvana would be followed by several episodes of frustration.

Hell, it pisses me off when I have to go around and change all of the clocks for daylight savings time. 
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 02:04:06 PM »
Those excerpts suggest there are some really miserable people at the DUmp, people who find little or no joy even in the little things.

It must really suck to be them.
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 02:05:13 PM »
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im no longer a tuning fork for every idiot with a ball peterc hammer.

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No negotiating with anyone else

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I get to do whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

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once about 33 years ago I spent two weeks spinning and weaving in solitude and only left my house to get groceries

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...sometimes not leaving the house for 5 days at a time.



After reading that, it seems to me that several of them are enjoying 'solitude' because nobody else can bear to be around them for any length of time.  I bet you all are great at family get-togethers... when you manage to accidentally get invited.   


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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 02:30:44 PM »

       
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 02:43:09 PM »
A lot of DUmmies have been ostracized by their own families. Every holiday you can feel the pain and loneliness at DU.  These people are not in solitude by choice. DU is probably their only human contact.

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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 03:55:27 PM »
A lot of DUmmies have been ostracized by their own families. Every holiday you can feel the pain and loneliness at DU.  These people are not in solitude by choice. DU is probably their only human contact.

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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 04:17:30 PM »
I'm sorry, but anybody who has 60,000 posts on a message board is not a "loner," they are just choosing virtual contact over real life contact. 

I enjoy solitary activities, like reading or walking in nature, but I enjoy being with people too, online and in real life. 

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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 04:19:47 PM »
It's funny--some of the most peaceful times I've had have been on a watch, while deer hunting.  The forest and all of its' creatures.  It really drives home the point that God really did make a Great Creation in Earth.

Fishing does that for me. When I deer hunt, I go with a group and use dogs. Dog hunting is becoming rare here, though; GA passed a law several years ago that mandated a minimum acreage for dog hunting. It's also getting very expensive to lease land from the pulp mills around here. I have done some still hunting; but I have a hard time getting in and out of tree stands due to back issues.
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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 04:40:29 PM »
The best solitude for my money is out on the water.

You don't need to catch fish to enjoy the nature or the peacefullness.






Until some ****ass in a jet ski makes a couple of passes. :argh:

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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 04:57:22 PM »
My most favorite "alone" moments were on a dirt bike, either on the farm or competing in an organized race, just me and the machine interfaced as one, dodging trees, jumping ditches, climbing hills...

That was until Earth First, Sierra Club, and various other DUmbass groups closed off a shitload of public lands for "wilderness". 

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Re: loner primitives discuss the joys of solitude
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 05:02:21 PM »
I'm sorry, but anybody who has 60,000 posts on a message board is not a "loner," they are just choosing virtual contact over real life contact. 

I enjoy solitary activities, like reading or walking in nature, but I enjoy being with people too, online and in real life. 

I do not know, after 2 decades of mind melting sound of machines and having to yell to be heard twice, my home with the birds singing and the quiet except for the occasional yelping of the dogs and the soothing of the cats purring is a blessing.

Quiet and solitude are two different things, I am never alone, have family I talk to on the phone, the hum of my electrical appliances, the voice of Hubby, this is not solitude, this is the way life should be.

It is no wonder that we get our minds jangled with constent noise, the brain shifting at all times to recognise the sounds of everyday life, sudden unexpected noises, or the constant noise of  very loud machinery that sends vibrations through the body.

Solitude is the absence of every thing but self, reason why prisoners dread being placed in a cell with no human contact and nothing to stimulate them, no books, not even a bug to watch.   Solicitude drives people mad, it is unnatural.    

Some Russian I read about was placed into solitary confinement for 5 years or so, he had a blanket that was of a check a Bord pattern. some how he stole or found just one book on how to play chess.   He made the board pieces out of bread and practiced and played on his blanket for the 5 years and when realeased went on to become a world class chess master.

Quiet is relative, solitude is to be made nonhuman, other the being buried alive I cannot think of a worse fate.