Welcome to The Conservative Cave©!Join in the discussion! Click HERE to register.
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
TheWraith (23,259 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore Reminder: Cell phones do not cause cancer, nor do radio waves make you sick.After once again seeing a big steaming load of pseudoscientific dung dropped here a little while ago, in the form of an article claiming that cell phone towers and radio waves will make you sick, I thought it was about that time for our regular reminder: they don't. Every major scientific study has concluded that there is no tangible health risks from radio waves, in the same way that every major scientific study has shown that exercise is good for you and the Earth is more than 6,000 years old. This is not controversial at all. There are no real health risks associated with the average person's exposure to radio waves. And people who claim to be sickened by wireless devices have long since been debunked, since despite claiming immediate ill effects, they're unable to tell the difference between a wireless device which is transmitting and one which isn't even plugged in. If cell phones actually caused cancer, with now something like 90 cell phones in the US per 100 people, science would dictate that cancer rates would have gone up, whereas they have actually gone DOWN slightly since cell phones became popular. Furthermore, if radio waves were actually in any way harmful, you'd think people would have experienced that from being near radio and TV stations which transmit at a hundred thousand watts, rather than cell phone towers which transmit at a few hundred. The wild claims you hear about people being sickened by WiFi or getting rashes from cell phone towers are, simply put, junk. You might as well say that they were cursed by a witch--it has as much scientific validity. Either they're people who are hypochondriacs and don't understand that just because something exists doesn't make it dangerous, or they're simply misinformed.
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore5. Jury is not completely out withCell phones perse, and studies are still ongoing on that, but you knew that. As to cell towers...mostly correct. But cell phones themselves...I will wait...and it's believed not to be related to the radio waves by the way...
jeff47 (3,503 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore10. *sigh*Really.....cell phones using the same frequencies at much, much less power may be dangerous, but cell towers, even when standing right next to them, are not? And it's not radio waves? What is it, aether?
Response to jeff47 (Reply #10)Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:35 PM nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore20. Radiation from battery packages and a few other thingsSigh indeed. To be clear from studies, not related to radio waves, either the towers or phones. Regardless, there is another danger on them clearly established by now...driving and talking/ texting. The evidence for that other possible problem, operative word, possible, s still in the realm of statistics and epidemiology, will take a decade or two before we have anything one way or the other.
jeff47 (3,503 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore25. No, the statistics are already in.Cell phones have been widely distributed since the 1980s. Back then they were analog units that output far more power. So if there's some effect, early adopters would show signs. They have not. Newer, digital units have been ubiquitous since the 1990s. They use less power, and thus would logically have less effect. Again, if there was some effect, a hell of a lot of people would show signs. They have not. There has been ample time for statistics to show a danger, and they have consistently failed to do so. Now, what sort of radiation do you think comes from a lithium-ion battery?
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore40. Sure they are... why the WHO is still waiting for themHave a good day.
TheWraith (23,259 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore61. Radiation from battery packages? Would you care to try that one again?Because batteries don't "radiate."
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore63. Tell you what, take the issue with the World Health Organizationand the National Institutes of Health. I take those people are not wearing tin foil, but as I said, the evidence is not fully in, even if you want to believe otherwise. Did I mention Centers for Disease Control? I guess the tinfoil market over those places is high and heavy. Have a good day. Will let you have the absolute last word on this... since you of course have read everything on this subject. I have not, but have read enough FROM THOSE tin foil wearing lunatics to know that this is not fully settled yet...
nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore65. Fully agreedWhat worries researchers workng on the research studies (statistical analysis and all that jazz) are for real long term exposure...my niece's generation, who started using them pesky toys young, I dare say they use them more often than I do...hence them stats still have some time to come in. Why NIH, CDC, WHO and a few other lunatics, are still waiting for that to come in. I dare say for you and me it's academic, and I hope when the data comes in, it remains academic. Of course land fills and batteries, don't get me started. that is a hole different story.
Nads has GOT to be doing Skinner. I really cannot see why she is still without a tombstone.Skinner. you blind fool.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-12-11 04:51 PMOriginal message We have crossed the rubicon... folks I was hoping that they'd tone it down... realizing that yes... they too could be in the gun sights.Instead we have seen an escalation to the point that no, I don't think it can be dialed down. We are at that point some of us have predicted. Things will now slowly escalate... but they will. Hope to whoever that I am wrong... but this morning was not a small thing, nor an idiot putting foot in mouth... but a hell of an escalation. That is all.Politics is about to take a very nasty turn...
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:35 PM nadinbrzezinski (104,019 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore20. Radiation from battery packages and a few other things
It's hard to believe that even nadin is this dumb. What happened to all that advanced learning that she got in third world school?Here in the redneck south we learned about batteries in 7th grade chem class. That was before lithium batteries, but I assume they operate on the same principle as other batteries.Maybe she thinks cell phones are powered by radioisotope generators.
Without batteries, most of the DUmp has no sex life.
There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site
