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Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« on: April 06, 2012, 05:17:31 AM »
H.R.4189 - To require the Secretary of Defense to provide an annual certification that all programming on the American Forces Radio and Television Service represents the best-faith efforts by the Department of Defense to provide programming for members of the Armed Forces and their families that communicates the policies, priorities, programs, goals, and initiatives of the Department while avoiding airing programming that exhibits values contrary to the values of the Armed Forces and the United States.

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The flap over Limbaugh’s presence on AFN is now attracting congressional attention, with Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, saying he thinks Limbaugh doesn’t belong on the military radio network.

In addition, Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, has introduced legislation advocating decency standards for AFN radio and television broadcasts that would prevent the airing of programs that “exhibit values contrary to the values of the Armed Forces and the United States.”

Levin told reporters that he would not personally demand the Defense Department cancel Limbaugh’s radio show, but “I would love to see them drop it.”

Ryan’s bill, introduced Thursday, would require annual certification by the Defense Department that shows broadcast on the military’s radio and television networks support policies, goals and initiatives of the military without exhibiting negative values. Ryan said he was not proposing censorship, but wanted “common sense and decency” applied to programming decisions.

His bill, HR 4189, was referred to the House Armed Services Committee for consideration, where it could be offered as an amendment to the 2013 defense authorization bill that the committee will pass later this year.

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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2012, 06:43:56 AM »
Yep, that'll work. Show the military the liberal values they're putting their lives on the line for and they'll all quit and go home....no more wars and more money to buy DUmmie votes with.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 08:52:39 AM »
Thanks for posting that info, TRG.

Sent an email to my congressman and two senators, one of which is a card-carrying moonbat (McCaskill). We shall see how that works out.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 09:12:53 AM »
It would be hard for AFN to be much more of a hollow shell of American culture than it already is, but I see the 'Rats in Congress are intent on making that happen.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 06:48:51 PM »
Screw the congressman and any others that want to mess with AFN.  The only people that should have a say is active duty military. Judge the shows, by how many people want to keep them.

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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 07:00:32 PM »
It's gonna go no where. They don't control the house and are about to lose the senate and presidency.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 07:17:40 PM »
It would be hard for AFN to be much more of a hollow shell of American culture than it already is, but I see the 'Rats in Congress are intent on making that happen.

Whoa.

If that gets into law, which it won't, I guess they'd have to disband, dissolve, AFN altogether then, because there isn't any radio show that would meet that criteria.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 05:00:24 AM »
It's gonna go no where. They don't control the house and are about to lose the senate and presidency.

But here's how it will go down.  This Congresscritter attaches this legislation to the Defense Authorization for 2013...now the Republicans are in a corner...either they vote to give us the money we need for 2013 and this attached piece of crap slides through or the GOP doesn't vote for the Authorization because Ryan has put H.R. 4189 on it and the Dems can then go out and trumpet loud and long that "Republicans support the woman hating Rush Limbaugh more than they support the troops."
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 05:03:41 AM »
It would be hard for AFN to be much more of a hollow shell of American culture than it already is, but I see the 'Rats in Congress are intent on making that happen.

My question is...if they manage to get Rush off...does that mean that NPR and Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann get the axe too? All three of those shows are on AFN Radio.

What about the entire line up of MSNBC?
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 08:14:58 AM »
My question is...if they manage to get Rush off...does that mean that NPR and Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann get the axe too? All three of those shows are on AFN Radio.

What about the entire line up of MSNBC?

I was wondering about that -- inasmuch as AFN generally provides a mixture of stuff that appeals to everybody, which pundits on the left does AFN broadcast?

Thanks for that background, TRG. Let's hope the arguments continue.

And yeah, there is no doubt the Dems will roll out that approach. It's a standard method of getting through popular legislation -- tack on the stupidest, most outrageous bullshit on top of it and the entire package becomes a political football.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 12:22:45 PM »
I was wondering about that -- inasmuch as AFN generally provides a mixture of stuff that appeals to everybody, which pundits on the left does AFN broadcast?


TV:

Matthews (both shows)

Maddow

O'Donnell

Blitzer

David Gregory

Bob Scheffer

George Stephanapolis

MSNBC Live (Thomas Roberts)

Ed Schultz

Ellen Degeneres

Jon Stewart

Stephen Colbert

The View

Piers Morgan

60 Minutes

The Daily Run Down (Chuck Todd)

Tavis Smiley

Anderson Cooper


Radio:

NPR (Morning Edition and All Things Considered)

AP Radio News

Ed Schultz

Thom Hartmann

Mike Malloy

Bill Press

Stephanie Miller

Randi Rhodes

Alan Colmes

Joe Madison

Bev Smith
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 12:26:05 PM »
TV:

Matthews (both shows)

Maddow

O'Donnell

Blitzer

David Gregory

Bob Scheffer

George Stephanapolis

MSNBC Live (Thomas Roberts)

Ed Schultz

Ellen Degeneres

Jon Stewart

Stephen Colbert

The View

Piers Morgan

60 Minutes

The Daily Run Down (Chuck Todd)

Tavis Smiley

Anderson Cooper


Radio:

NPR (Morning Edition and All Things Considered)

AP Radio News

Ed Schultz

Thom Hartmann

Mike Malloy

Bill Press

Stephanie Miller

Randi Rhodes

Alan Colmes

Joe Madison

Bev Smith

I wonder if the congresscritter is aware of all that moonbatism that infests AFN airwaves. There's a shitload right there.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2012, 12:30:43 PM »
I wonder if the congresscritter is aware of all that moonbatism that infests AFN airwaves. There's a shitload right there.

I would hazard a guess that this Libtard Congress Critter doesn't view them as moonbats or extreme.

In the interest of fairness here is the complete M-Su lineup on AFN Power Talk

Schedule:
 
Monday
 
10 a.m.   Best of Bill Press
1 p.m.     Mike Gallagher
4 p.m.     Mike Malloy
7 p.m.     Rush Limbaugh
10 p.m.   Ed Schultz
1 a.m.     Sean Hannity
4 a.m.     Thom Hartmann
7 a.m.     Rush Limbaugh
 
Tuesday-Friday
 
10 a.m.  Ed Schultz
1 p.m.    Sean Hannity
4 p.m.    Thom Hartman
7 p.m.    Rush Limbaugh
10 p.m.  Ed Schultz
1 a.m.    Sean Hannity
4 a.m.    Thom Hartmann
7 a.m.    Rush Limbaugh
 
Saturday
 
10 a.m. Ed Schultz
1 p.m.   Sean Hannity
4 p.m.   Thom Hartmann
7 p.m.   Glenn Beck
10 p.m. Stephanie Miller
1 a.m.   Michael Savage
4 a.m.   Bev Smith
7 a.m.   Laura Ingraham
 
Sunday
 
10 a.m. Randi Rhodes
1 p.m.   Mark Levin
4 p.m.   Alan Colmes
7 p.m.   Lou Dobbs Weekends
9 p.m.   Best of Joe Madison
12 a.m. Best of Neal Boortz
3 a.m.   Leslie Marshall
6 a.m.   Jerry Doyle

http://www.afneurope.net/tabid/1956/Default.aspx

That schedule is broadcast on the AFN decoder box for the TV and on the AM frequencies.
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Re: Tim Ryan D-OH H.R. 4189
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 10:08:02 PM »
But here's how it will go down.  This Congresscritter attaches this legislation to the Defense Authorization for 2013...now the Republicans are in a corner...either they vote to give us the money we need for 2013 and this attached piece of crap slides through or the GOP doesn't vote for the Authorization because Ryan has put H.R. 4189 on it and the Dems can then go out and trumpet loud and long that "Republicans support the woman hating Rush Limbaugh more than they support the troops."

Since the Repubs control the H.of Rep., I do not see how that could happen. If the bill originates in the Senate, they have the votes there but not in the House. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 01:39:00 AM »
Since the Repubs control the H.of Rep., I do not see how that could happen. If the bill originates in the Senate, they have the votes there but not in the House. 

It's a poison pill.  Dems do it all the time.  Insert something that is one of their pet referendums into a piece of legislation that has nothing to do with what's being voted on.

Like when Dems tried to...IIRC...insert a rider to a Defense bill when 43 was in office to defund the Iraq war.

Same thing here. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2012, 02:30:41 AM »
Liberal radio host Thom Hartmann came unglued over Trayvon Martin on Wednesday, blaming his death on...the Koch brothers.

"A young man died," he declared. "A young man died a violent and unnecessary death because the Koch brothers and other right-wingers and large corporations in America decided that it would be a really cool idea if they got together and wrote laws that they would then give to mostly Republican legislators in state legislatures all across the country at meetings twice a year of the so-called American Legislative Exchange Council." He also blamed the NRA and Wal-Mart:


The so called stand your ground and shoot first laws, brought to you by the NRA and Wal-Mart, peddled to state legislators, Republican state legislators, by the American Legislative Exchange Council, ALEC, funded by the Koch brothers. That’s pretty amazing, when you see a fairly direct line from right-wing billionaires funding front groups that are actually writing our nation’s laws to a dead kid in Florida.


In the second hour of his program, he debated Alan Korwin of Gunlaws.com, and added some racial craziness: "The point is that white people in this country now feel [that] if they've got a gun now they've got the power to kill black people and not have to answer for it. They've felt that way for a long, long time, but these kind of laws put it on steroids."

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And yet Rush is the root of all evil and the reason AFN needs "decency standards".


Thom Hartmann is heard M-F on AFN Radio and the AFN Talknet channel on satellite decoders.
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