Conspiratorially Speaking: United Flight 93 and 9/11

[dutch508]

Because the hate between Obama and hillery fanatics are nothing...

kpete  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 12:35 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3273494
Conspiratorially Speaking: United Flight 93 and 9/11 (A BuzzFlash Editorial)  
 Advertisements [?]Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:40 PM by kpete
The reality is that the Bush White House covered up much about 9/11, including its own incompetence.

The entire reign of manipulated fear that we have been living under since 9/11 goes back to George W. Bush's cavalier indifference (along with Rice's malfeasance) to clear alarms in 2001 about Al-Qaeda coming our way.

We bring this up today because the item about United Flight 93 emerged so casually in a Chicago Tribune May 12th editorial http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/c... about the need for Vice Presidents who can stand the heat. (Of course, Bush was off in a Florida elementary school classroom for a long time reading "My Pet Goat" and waiting for his handlers, including Cheney and Rove, to tell him what to do.)

But the Tribune editorial reminded us that the likelihood that Flight 93 was shot down, given the first reports and the account of Cheney ordering it shot down, is quite high. Any U.S. government, whether Democratic or Republican, would probably not want to admit that it was responsible for blowing a commercial airliner with U.S. citizens aboard out of the sky.


On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, after planes had crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Vice President Dick Cheney was in the White House bunker and had to make a momentous recommendation to President Bush, who was in flight aboard Air Force One: that Bush authorize the military to shoot down any civilian airliners that might be hijacked and headed for other targets.

Bush concurred—and shortly after, the moment of truth arrived. A military aide approached Cheney: "There is a plane 80 miles out," he said. "There is a fighter in the area. Should we engage?" Cheney had thought through the complex implications of that question, had discussed it with his boss, and didn't hesitate to answer: "Yes." That plane was United Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania before fighter jets could reach it. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/c...


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So a heroic narrative was, it appears, crafted to cover up the reality of what happened. At the time, we speculated that Flight 93 may have been headed for the infamous Three-Mile Island nuclear plant, just a short air distance away from where it went down. Or it may have indeed been flying back with terrorist plans to crash the plane into Congress or the White House.

We'll never know.

more at:
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/089

 
MIHOP!!!

OmmmSweetOmmm  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Why were parts found Miles away???
 Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:54 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.as...

Investigators locate 'black box' from Flight 93; widen search area in Somerset crash

Thursday, September 13, 2001

Snip

Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene.

Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday.

OmmmSweetOmmm  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I just edited my post with an article from the local PA paper. 6 Miles Away in Indian Lake
 Edited on Mon May-12-08 12:56 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
including human remains

Ghost in the Machine  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. That's the small pond near the crash site... this has been explained to you before..
 several times... you wouldn't spout this bullshit in the 9-11 forum because you know better.. you're just trying to spread disinformation to people in GD who don't know better.. you should be ashamed of yourself..

Ghost in the Machine  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #34
85. Don't get pissy with me, son....
 Did you, or did you NOT, know how far the lake was from the crater?

If you did, which your reply I posted shows that you did, then your describing this body of water as Indian Lake and describing it as "yards away" is a flat out ****ing LIE because, as I already showed, you know that isn't true.

If you say you *didn't* know how far away the lake was you'll show yourself to be a liar.

The simple fact is, you got caught trying to spread bullshit. Period. You KNEW this wasn't Indian Lake and you KNEW it was further than "yards away". Do all your little math problems you want to try to cover your ass, people can see through it. Your lame excuse of 'uhh.. I was relying on *this* picture' doesn't fly, either.

You got busted, plain & simple...

boloboffin  (1000+ posts)       Mon May-12-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #85
94. Stop talking shit about me and I won't have cause to get pissy with you.
 1. I am not your son. ****ing patronize me again like that and you're reported. It's bolo or boloboffin if you care to address me. Got it?  

2. You stated a ******* factual inaccuracy about me. You said I had been told over and over again about that being a pond. You've had plenty of time to produce a quote and you've obviously been scouring the September llth forum for any such conversation I was a part of. You failed to produce. You were talking shit. You were doing it in an attempt to libel me. I expect an apology from you in the NEXT ******* POST YOU RESPOND TO, or you are once again reported for this attack on me.

3. I made a mistake. I've admitted to it. Yet you continue to attack me even though you cannot produce anything to justify your trash talking. I've admitted to my mistake and yet you cannot. Keep on and guess what?


I remind you that calling a DU member a liar is against the very, very clear rules here. You are treading on very thin ice here, Ghost.

[Sonnabend]

Will these DUmmies never learn??

[jukin]

Will these DUmmies never learn??

NO.

[Willow]

Will these DUmmies never learn??

 

[Airwolf]

As much as I love my friend grant, I can't believe he think the USAF shot down united 93. I had to tell him that it would be impossible to fake that hole in the ground in PA if they did because there wouldn't be much left of it after an A2A missile finnished her off .

[PatriotGame]

Mass chaos and drama over 9/11 at the DUmp.
Nope!
Never saw that coming....

I really am beginning to worry about myself. If a day goes by that I don't get to laugh at a little DUmp insanity, I become "edgy".
I'm beginning to think I've got a monkey on my back - a DUmp monkey. 

[Carl]

Just to get their ideas straight here...

They understand that their was an order authorized by the President to shoot down civilian aircraft if needed.
Without any real evidence they are saying this is what happened with Flight 93 and finding fault with it yet on other threads they say it is proof that 9/11 was staged because the military didn`t shoot down the planes that hit the WTC.

It is hard to imagine from a sane point of view the delusion and incoherence they willingly choose for themselves.

[Sonnabend]

HEY

How the hell did I get 28 bitchslaps? 

*mutter*

 

[PatriotGame]

HEY

How the hell did I get 28 bitchslaps? 

*mutter*

 

Ya just got another for that little outburst Mr.!
 (((((  )))))

[Sonnabend]

And so did you.