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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2012, 12:15:24 PM »
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Seriously, I think Freeper hit it. We'd get our butts kicked if we stepped out of line. The two-generation long culture of death has caught up with us. When the majority of births under thirty are to single mothers, we have a problem.

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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2012, 12:37:29 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 28, 2012, 12:12:55 AM
The kid didn't attend Chardon High School.

The report says he was there waiting for transportation to an "alternative" school, one of those future felon warehouses like the place where Pam Dawson now loafs.

So he was a delinquent already.

And what's more appropriate than nutcase nadin misspelling "scholarly"?


Now 3 are dead! This little prick needs to fry!

I believe I read that the police were very familiar with this particular delinquent!

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Many, many years ago I worked as part of a crew with two other guys. I'll call them Fred and Bob. Fred was a good guy. Bob was sort of like nadin. He pretty much claimed to know everything and talked all of the time. Fred's opinion was that Bob was lying all of the time because Bob was constantly talking and there just wasn't that much truth in the world.

One day we decided to put it to the test. While Bob was listening I told Fred that the day before I had seen a special on one of the educational channels that claimed they had discovered a new planet. Keep in mind that this was several years BEFORE any planets were found outside of our solar system. Fred pretended like the story intrigued him. As soon as Bob saw Fred's interest he claimed that he had seen the special also. Once Bob claimed he had seen the nonexistent special I knew that I had him hooked and decided to see how much fun I could have. I told him that I was only able to see the first 5 minutes of the special so I was curious about the details. For the next half-hour or so Bob regaled us with the story of a nonexistent TV special about a nonexistent planet.

For some reason nadin's claim of readying the fascinating monkey study reminded me of the above incident.

I'm pretty sure Nads has first hand experience washin' the sand off sweet potatoes!
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
How quickly she changes her "insight"

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74. I can see all kinds of motives taking shape now

and bullying is part of it... as per usual it is NOT the only cause.

But it is in the soup... as it were.
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72. One of the group he shot at had started dating his ex-girlfriend

High school junior Nate Mueller, whose right ear was grazed, identified the shooter as T.J. Lane.

Mueller said he and his friends, including Russell King, Nick Walczak and Demetrius Hewlin, were sitting at their regular cafeteria table when T.J. approached them about 7:30 a.m.
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Russell, he said, had recently started dating T.J.'s ex-girlfriend, who is home-schooled.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/02/chardon_student_identifies_sho.html

Hmmmm....sounds like that may be the motivation here. From replies in the thread, the shooter was identified as being bullied by ONE 15 year old student.

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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2012, 03:29:15 PM »
Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting

Nadin....Motivational Expert and Speaker.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2012, 03:30:06 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on February 28, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
How quickly she changes her "insight"

That was in reply to this

Hmmmm....sounds like that may be the motivation here. From replies in the thread, the shooter was identified as being bullied by ONE 15 year old student.



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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 04:10:41 PM »
A thrid student has dies. They are now saying that the victims were shot at randomly. Hardly a case for Bullying no matter how Nads slices it.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/28/10526993-third-student-dies-in-shooting-gunman-said-to-have-fired-randomly

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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 04:37:25 PM »
What happened to the good old days when everyone knew their roles? Bullies pushed people around and the victims took it. Eventually the victims grew up to be the 1% and spent the rest of their days rubbing the 99%er's noses in it.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 05:19:06 PM »
Quote from: FlaGator on February 28, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
What happened to the good old days when everyone knew their roles? Bullies pushed people around and the victims took it. Eventually the victims grew up to be the 1% and spent the rest of their days rubbing the 99%er's noses in it.

That became politicians.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 07:28:03 PM »
I wonder if Nadin will post THIS story link...

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/28/10526993-third-student-dies-in-shooting-gunman-said-to-have-fired-randomly


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At a press conference after the hearing, Prosecutor David Joyce described Lane as "someone who's not well."
"This is not about bullying," he added. "This is not about drugs."
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Fifteen-year-old Danny Komertz, who witnessed the shooting, said Lane was known as an outcast who had apparently been bullied. But others disputed that.
"Even though he was quiet, he still had friends," said Tyler Lillash, 16. "He was not bullied."
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 07:30:50 PM »
Quote from: dixierose on February 28, 2012, 07:28:03 PM
I wonder if Nadin will post THIS story link...

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/28/10526993-third-student-dies-in-shooting-gunman-said-to-have-fired-randomly



Fat chance of that, because the facts don't agree with her premature conclusions.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 07:31:57 PM »
Yep..


maybe one of her "stalkers/bullies" will point it out :)
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2012, 07:34:49 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 28, 2012, 07:30:50 PM
Fat chance of that, because the facts don't agree with her premature conclusions.

If facts were frieght trains Nads would have been smacked square in the face with them by now
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2012, 08:04:46 PM »
A friend of the shooter says he wasn't bullied.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2012, 11:13:39 PM »
Nutcase nadin would love to pop a cap on Obamanaut.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2012, 04:51:32 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 28, 2012, 11:13:39 PM
Nutcase nadin would love to pop a cap on Obamanaut.

Well, to Nadin he is the DU school yard bully......slap her again Obamanaut.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2012, 05:24:26 AM »
Quote from: FlaGator on February 28, 2012, 04:37:25 PM
What happened to the good old days when everyone knew their roles? Bullies pushed people around and the victims took it. Eventually the victims grew up to be the 1% and spent the rest of their days rubbing the 99%er's noses in it.

I was bullied until about the 8th grade. After that I was big enough to kick ass, and I ****in' got my revenge! I did a helluva lot more than rub their noses in it!!!
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2012, 07:04:57 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 29, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
I was bullied until about the 8th grade. After that I was big enough to kick ass, and I ****in' got my revenge! I did a helluva lot more than rub their noses in it!!!

I was bullied a bit in grade school--then I got smarter than the bullies, and they came to me for school help.  No, I didn't do their assignments for them.  I actually had a few protecting me at that point (by then, it was high school).
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #42 on: February 29, 2012, 07:08:26 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 29, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
I was bullied until about the 8th grade. After that I was big enough to kick ass, and I ****in' got my revenge! I did a helluva lot more than rub their noses in it!!!

 :lmao:...same here...I was tall and skinny and one bully just kept on until he hurt me, put me on crutches for 2 weeks. When I got well we were going down some stairs and I put my foot in his back and down the stairs he went.. :lmao: Of course I denied it all but there was my muddy foot print right between his shoulder blades.. :lmao: He never bothered me again...and then there was the time I bit one bully on the ear and wouldn't turn him loose. His buddies were trying to pull me off him and he was screaming for them to stop... :lmao: I got rather mean in the eighth grade... :lmao:

ETA: I guess I was a bully in grammer school. I was the skinniest kid in the little country grammer school (grades 1 thru 6 with 70/75 students max). All the boys my age could whip me....all except fat Butch. When someone whipped my ass, I would hunt up Butch and whip his butt... poor old Butch :rotf:
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2012, 08:20:24 AM »
Quote from: dixierose on February 28, 2012, 07:31:57 PM
Yep..


maybe one of her "stalkers/bullies" will point it out :)
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2012, 08:25:55 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on February 29, 2012, 05:24:26 AM
I was bullied until about the 8th grade. After that I was big enough to kick ass, and I ****in' got my revenge! I did a helluva lot more than rub their noses in it!!!

I was bullied for a year when I moved from NY to NJ, the bullying started again when school started the following year, I had enough, got up from the desk and started beating the girl up in the classroom, the poor teacher had a hard time pulling me off of her and he accidentally got bopped in the head, problem solved though, no more bullying.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #45 on: February 29, 2012, 08:36:16 AM »
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #46 on: February 29, 2012, 09:34:07 AM »
This hits me that everyone is pushed around at one time or another in their lives.   Why is it our kids today go to the extremes we never did.??

In our youth we had to either fight back or take it and hope it would go away in time.

Today's kids that are jacked up for lunch money, have to listen to insults and derision from class mates, go home and take out  their frustration with the video games they play.   3 hours of shooting and killing the bad guys, gaining points in the game help.

The games lower the kids attitude on mayham and death, little by little the kids are becoming immune to blood and gore.   Soon the game enemy's are replaced by in their own mind with the  kids that are taunting them.

We Adults never had this outlet to go home and kill our enemy's  except in our mind.  

Kids today can go home and control their hate, so comes the time when things get just too hard for them they find a weapon and go after their tormentors as they have done for weeks or months in a video game.  The boundary between the game and real life has been broken,   No longer do they feel anykind of sympathy or compassion for the tormentors, they have ceased to be human for them, they are like the characters they kill over and over again on a video game.

We are raising a generation of kids that play for hours killing maiming and watching blood spatter with no feeling but accomplishment at winning a game.  It is no wonder why kids after spending hours and hours destroying an enemy on a video game begin to think about destroying their real life enemy's.

It is no coincidence that all these school killings became epidemic at the time the violent video games came on the scene. Sure we had every few years a problem with the lone Wolfe's that carried out bad things.   However this rise in kids that retaliate against the Bully's is new and if not the videos they play, then what, why.????  



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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #47 on: February 29, 2012, 10:29:12 AM »
I know that bullying today is a little different. When I was picked on at school, I could get away from it when I went home. Not so for kids today...the picking continues on Facebook and other social media. That may be why reactions are so much different today. Home is no longer a "safe haven" for kids (unless they stay away from the internet).
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #48 on: February 29, 2012, 11:21:31 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on February 29, 2012, 08:36:16 AM
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Suffice it to say, nadin has a response.

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86. Of course, i am all but surprised

And your point? Columbines wasn't about bullying, until it was.

Ths is part of the pattern.

If bullying was part of it, well then it woud weaken the case...

Why I hope the defense uses it.

From the outside looking in, of course it can be about both. In fact, I expect to be about more than either

But I get it, the world is not about manichean choices and includes more than one explanation. Humans are complex critters.

But if this helps to explain this tragedy to you, be my guest.

And I said in the op and in in the thread that it was part of it, not the woe explanation, and tat it is high time we, as a society, start that conversation. I see this is scary...I get it...but it is time we do.
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Re: Nads knows the motivation behind the Ohio school shooting
« Reply #49 on: February 29, 2012, 12:25:26 PM »
Which is it Nads? Bullying or not? Columbine happened because they killers were part of the "Trench coat Mafia" and were outcast. They took their revenge out on thier clasmates because they didn't like how they were treated. For a historian you  have absolutly no clue of what has happened within the past five minutes let alone the past five hundred years.
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