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"It's only fair when we win!"
« on: February 14, 2012, 01:57:34 PM »
Tell me this doesn't perk-up your hopes for this November:

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Are the Democrats doing enough to prevent another stolen election?

The 2000 election was stolen in Florida with the help of the Supreme Court.

The 2004 election was stolen in Ohio.

The voting machines that many of us use are owned by Republican-oriented corporations. (And since the program coding is proprietary, no one is allowed to see it.)

Many states have and are in the process of passing voting laws to exclude the poor, the elderly, students and ex-felons, most of who tend to vote Democratic.

The Justice Dept. is currently “looking into” some of the newly passed voting laws. And there are judges here and there who are shooting down such laws. But it’s not enough.

The Democratic Party was totally silent in 2000 and 2004. And I don’t hear them making much noise today.

Someone once said, “It’s not those who cast the votes. It’s those who count the votes.”

The Democratic Party should be declaring all out “war” against another stolen election. And there’s less than nine months left.

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1. The fact the Party doesn't work to ensure election integrity makes me suspect they don't care.

Why they don't care is an important question to raise with national party officials.

I know in Michigan, the People are furious.

It's not just the votes that aren't counted, or Who does the counting, the government legislates as if our opinion doesn't matter.

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2. You're absolute correct. There is no excuse for such inaction on the part of the Dem. Party.

I can't understand it. There are tons of data on the easily manipulated machines used all over the country, tons of new laws on the books to restrict registration and voting, and the Attorney General "is looking into it"?????? And the Dem. Party is doing WHAT???? Nothing, that I can see. Brad of Brad Blog might as well be broadcasting from Mars, as far as anyone pays any attention to his years' long investigation and light cast upon voting irregularities.

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3. Don`t forget

1980 stolen as well.

President Carter despite rayguns secret conspiring with Iran was neck and neck as of the morning of election day and suddenly out of nowhere he lost in a landslide.

TPTB have had a long range plan that has been carried out since then.
They are hell bent to destroy what this country was founded on to enrich themselves.

They didn`t expect occupy to rise from the populace and now with it and the craziest bunch one can imagine running against President Obama their plans have a monkey wrench thrown in them.

I am almost afraid what they might do to steal this one too and if they are able to I hope you will see a real revolution against the plutocracy.

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4. But then there was enough turnout and monitoring in 2006 & 2008

where it didn't happen, despite DUers who swore it would. And unfortunately, 2010 was a classic case of GOTV failure in the off-Prez election season.

I expect the issues are going to be very localized - county by county, especially where there are close races in congressional districts (now redrawn) and state legislatures. The efforts need to come from the state parties...

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5. No, they are not.

I recognize the push-back, but as you point out, it's nowhere near enough. I guess it's up to us to spread the word, and help make voter turn-out as high as possible. The more there are of us voting, the more difficult it is for them to steal the election.

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6. While I'm totally on-board with your concerns...

I also don't believe the (R) PTB want to win the WH in 2012. That said, those of us with a vote that counts (being in DC, mine doesn't), need to get out there and make sure it's too damn hard to steal it this time around.

We need much larger (D)-Progressive representation in Congress if we expect to see anything change by 2016

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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 02:06:19 PM »
Pot calling.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 02:34:34 PM »
The wailing and screaming in November will be music to my ears.  :yahoo:
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 02:37:15 PM »
Cryano forgets something.

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Someone once said, “It’s not those who cast the votes. It’s those who count the votes.”

This was said about a Democrat machine somewhere.

And in fact, over time, Democrats have boasted about it, "It doesn't how the vote goes, because we count the votes" (said by some Chicago pol years ago).
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 02:42:13 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 14, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Cryano forgets something.

This was said about a Democrat machine somewhere.

And in fact, over time, Democrats have boasted about it, "It doesn't how the vote goes, because we count the votes" (said by some Chicago pol years ago).

Proof that the democrats idolize Josef Stalin.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 02:45:22 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 14, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Proof that the democrats idolize Josef Stalin.

And Cryano's been among the chief idolators.

I haven't been paying much attention to Oscar Wilde lately, but in the past, both distant and recent, he's called for the banning of the Republican party, and in fact for incarceration of Republicans.

I kid you not.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 02:49:10 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 14, 2012, 02:45:22 PM
And Cryano's been among the chief idolators.

I haven't been paying much attention to Oscar Wilde lately, but in the past, both distant and recent, he's called for the banning of the Republican party, and in fact for incarceration of Republicans.

I kid you not.

Republicans have most of the gums! :-) :yahoo: :whistling:
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2012, 02:53:25 PM »
Typical...everyone on that thread is asking if someone ELSE is doing something or that OTHERS should do something.

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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2012, 02:54:12 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 14, 2012, 02:49:10 PM
Republicans have most of the gums! :-) :yahoo: :whistling:

Cryano's one of the more interesting primitives, but his campfires are always pretty much the same whining, pretty monotonous.

Back when he was a young lad, about twenty, the PTB saw some talent in him, and were sure he could become the new wunderkind of Wall Street.  But then one day on the Staten Island ferry, he had a hissy fit and walked away.  He apparently later was drafted, and served in Washington state.  Then he moved to Florida, where he bitches and moans about Florida and the good and decent people that state.  One wonders why he just doesn't move back up to New York, if he finds Florida and Floridians distasteful.

He's older than his campfires might lead one to believe; he's from the Vietnam era.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 03:02:05 PM »
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1. The fact the Party doesn't work to ensure election integrity makes me suspect they don't care.

Wrong, the Democrat party doesn't want their own shenanigans investigated.  So they don't make completely baseless allegations against the Republicans.  They leave conspiracy garbage to you nutballs.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 03:14:24 PM »
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1. The fact the Party doesn't work to ensure election integrity makes me suspect they don't care.

Not at all, the DemonRat Party actually cares a very great deal - they just realize they have a whole lot more to lose than they do to gain if election integrity improves.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 03:20:55 PM »
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Are the Democrats doing enough to prevent another stolen election?

The 2000 election was stolen in Florida with the help of the Supreme Court.

BS! The supreme court just stopped Florida from changin' the rules AFTER the election!

The 2004 election was stolen in Ohio.

Another BS claim! It was investigated and found there was more DemonRat cheatin' than Repub!

The voting machines that many of us use are owned by Republican-oriented corporations. (And since the program coding is proprietary, no one is allowed to see it.)

So I guess you didn't notice when the SEIU were the ones who controlled the votin' machines in Vegas, and Reno, right? Did ya know Dirty Harry only won 2 counties in the whole state? Gee, and guess what? It was the counties where SEIU had control!

Many states have and are in the process of passing voting laws to exclude the poor, the elderly, students and ex-felons, most of who tend to vote Democratic.

Your full of shit! They just want you ****noids to quit importin' votes! I mean c'mon, when Mickey Mouse and Adolph Hitler get counted, as in WI lately, they need to do somethin'!

The Justice Dept. is currently “looking into” some of the newly passed voting laws. And there are judges here and there who are shooting down such laws. But it’s not enough.

Guess who appointed these pricks? When the people vote in their state to clean up the corruption in their voting, and you assbites take it to court, shop for a judge you know will rule in your favor, just who the hell is the one ****in' with our votin' system, maroon?

The Democratic Party was totally silent in 2000 and 2004. And I don’t hear them making much noise today.


Geez you're a ****in' liar! Both Gore and Kerry hung around tryin' to get enough evidence to turn the vote around!

Someone once said, “It’s not those who cast the votes. It’s those who count the votes.”

Yeah, we know! Otherwise Dirty Harry would never have been re-elected, DUmbass!

The Democratic Party should be declaring all out “war” against another stolen election. And there’s less than nine months left.

Ya mean they haven't? Boy, what planet do you live on, Uranus?

Lookin' pretty desperate their big nose! O'bummer is in real trouble and even you ignorant pricks know it! See ya in November asswipe!
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 03:23:11 PM »
Uh, I don't mean to be contrary, but:

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It was investigated and found there was more DemonRat cheatin' than Repub!

While examples of Democrat cheating in Ohio in 2004 were plentiful, I'm not aware that any example of Republican cheating was ever found.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 03:49:31 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 14, 2012, 03:23:11 PM
Uh, I don't mean to be contrary, but:

While examples of Democrat cheating in Ohio in 2004 were plentiful, I'm not aware that any example of Republican cheating was ever found.

AR's correct, then--more recorded instances of cheating by Dems than Republicans.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2012, 05:49:16 PM »
Hey primitives...

Pew report: One in eight voting registrations inaccurate

The Pew Report and LA Times - both DU approved news sources...  :popcorn:
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2012, 07:31:30 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 14, 2012, 02:49:10 PM
Republicans have most of the gums! :-) :yahoo: :whistling:

Gums don't kill people...



Well, OK, these gums probably would.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 09:50:56 PM »
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2. You're absolute correct. There is no excuse for such inaction on the part of the Dem. Party.


We'd be in a world of hurt if coach hadn't killed Andy.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2012, 10:00:43 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 14, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
We'd be in a world of hurt if coach hadn't killed Andy.

As you know, the fecund grasswire primitive's been researching franksolich's role in the demise of the late red round one.

That was a long time ago, and I might've forgotten some things she's now stumbling upon.

I hope if the fecund grasswire primitive finds (a) a single factual comment Beth made in all the months of the Scamdal, and (b) any instance in which franksolich, Scamdy, the DUmmie FUnnies, conservativeunderground, &c., &c., &c., intruded into the real life (i.e., off the internet) of any of the culprits, that the fecund grasswire primitive posts it, so as to refresh my memory.

If she can do that, I'll send her, post office money order, enough dough to pay the first month's rent for her upcoming pie-and-jam shoppe.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 05:02:42 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 14, 2012, 10:00:43 PM
As you know, the fecund grasswire primitive's been researching franksolich's role in the demise of the late red round one.

That was a long time ago, and I might've forgotten some things she's now stumbling upon.

I hope if the fecund grasswire primitive finds (a) a single factual comment Beth made in all the months of the Scamdal, and (b) any instance in which franksolich, Scamdy, the DUmmie FUnnies, conservativeunderground, &c., &c., &c., intruded into the real life (i.e., off the internet) of any of the culprits, that the fecund grasswire primitive posts it, so as to refresh my memory.

If she can do that, I'll send her, post office money order, enough dough to pay the first month's rent for her upcoming pie-and-jam shoppe.

I'll help you out, frank.  I'll donate the $40 windfall Odumbo said I can keep from my paycheck as well. 
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2012, 07:05:22 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 14, 2012, 03:49:31 PM
AR's correct, then--more recorded instances of cheating by Dems than Republicans.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2012, 07:54:26 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on February 15, 2012, 05:02:42 AM
I'll help you out, frank.  I'll donate the $40 windfall Odumbo said I can keep from my paycheck as well.

Actually, I'd offer the grasswire primitive a million bucks if during her "research," she found an instance where Beth told the truth about the reason for the fund-raiser and its progress.....and if she found an instance where proponents of open and honest fund-raising "interfered" with any medical care proposed for the late red round one.

But if I said "a million bucks," she'd think I was kidding, so I had to keep the amount reasonable, like the first month's rent on her pie-and-jam shoppe.

I don't think I'd have to fork over either a million bucks or any rent money anyway, because such never happened; Beth never told the truth about a damned thing, even a minor little thing, and proponents of open and honest fund-raising limited their activities to the internet, unlike what the opponents of open and honest fund-raising did.
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2012, 08:06:34 AM »
What a coincidence that republican vote "cheating" only happens when a republican wins?  If this "cheating" were so effective, don't the DUmmies realize republicans would always win?  Big stupid DUmmies cannot even come up with good conspiracy theories. 

A bunch of big crybabies and poor losers. 

I remember a very classy George W. Bush speaking after the 2006 midterm elections.  There were no allegations of cheating or vote-rigging.  The day after the elections, I remember him saying to the effect that the "American people have spoken" and they voted republicans out because they were unhappy with the direction of the country. 

It's called graciousness - you might want to try that sometime, Dummies. 
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2012, 08:22:20 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on February 14, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
We'd be in a world of hurt if coach hadn't killed Andy.

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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2012, 09:30:32 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 15, 2012, 08:22:20 AM
Fear the Nebraskan Assassin.

The Silent Stalker.  Well, silent as far as he can tell, anyway...

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Sorry Frank, couldn't resist!
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Re: "It's only fair when we win!"
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2012, 09:44:08 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 15, 2012, 09:30:32 AM
The Silent Stalker.  Well, silent as far as he can tell, anyway...

 :evil:

Sorry Frank, couldn't resist!
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