DUmmies hysterical about prayer breakfast.

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002259624

MadHound (30,140 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore


 So I see that once again Obama bows to The Family and attends the National Prayer Breakfast
For those of you who don't know, The Family is a fundamentalist religious group that converts and controls politicians in order to control the levers of power in DC. There are excellent exposes of The Family, the best being Jeff Sharlet's "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power."

Each year, The Family puts on The National Prayer Breakfast. Part public piousness, part homage, politicians of all stripes are compelled to attend, because they either seek, or fear the power that The Family controls.

Sad to see our President bending knee at this event once again. A shame that he doesn't have the courage to reject them for the theocratic organization that they are. 

Get a life loser.

Logical (3,611 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. Someday, maybe 50 years from now, this stupid country will not need a prayer breakfast.

RebelOne (22,195 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

15. I think it will be a lot longer than 50 years.

As long as the religious right is in control, it will be many, many years.

justiceischeap (6,658 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Yet, he used the event to gently smack down all of the GOP

and their stance against helping people. He talked about how his faith in christ was one that states that all those that need help, should get it. It was well-played politically. OTH, I agree, this should not be a function that any politician attends...nor should it be a function that takes place.

white_wolf (3,690 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

45. If these were the average person the street, I'd say you have a point.

These people aren't average. They are fanatics, they can't be reasoned with, they are convinced they alone know the truth. 

**** you commie.

MadHound (30,140 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

57. Why does Jesus figure into this equation?

Why, by simply making these pilgrimages to this venue, does Obama bring on to the stage Jesus' teachings in regards to his own message? This is a secular nation, at least nominally, and by continuing to pander and play politics, even if it is just tacitly, with these people he simply continues to allow the further insinuation of religion into our body politic.

Don't you think that we suffer from too much of that already?

 

jody (24,333 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

11. What's your problem? A president represents all We the People, not just those who voted for her/him.

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Just because a president attends this or that function in no way means she/he accepts the dogma or other rhetoric that group represents.

How can anyone expect a government to function when a few per cent on several divisive political issues are so bitterly and irrevocably polarized?

Is there is no compromise possible?

If We the People can not find some way to survive those pockets of pure hatred that threaten the very foundation of Democracy, can there ever be any hope for a peaceful world?
 

Wrong words on the island of hate.

MadHound (30,140 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

18. So breaking bread with theocrats,

At an event sponsored by theocrats is OK now? We should somehow compromise with theocrats?

One doesn't compromise with evil, and that is exactly what the theocrats at The Family are. Don't believe me, do your research. 

MadHound (30,140 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

64. Sorry, but that is the equivalnce falacy.

Not everything is actually equal or true.

People who are organized, powerful and dedicated to making our government run on conservative Christian principles actually are a threat to this country. People who simply want to promote civil or fair labor rights for all aren't. After all, how does promoting civil or fair labor rights for all change anything in the government?

Theocratic rule, of any sort, has never worked well, but rather brought mass suffering and pain. We see that in Iran and elsewhere today, so why would it work well here? 

Hard to believe the depths of idiocy these folks wallow in.

[BEG]

Everything outrages DUmmies.

I couldn't listen to him though, every single place he goes he spews his "spread the wealth around" meme.

[NHSparky]

One time, just ONE FREAKING TIME, I'd love to hear Obama give a talk, speech, etc., that didn't involve politics.

And yeah, I know--never happen.  And to think, the most controversial moment up to that point at the NPB was Reagan labeling the Soviet Union the "Evil Empire".

Hey, call 'em like ya see 'em.

[Maxiest]

Ever once in a pale blue moon I learn something from DU.

Today I learned about "THE FAMILY!"

What a bunch of idiots.

[Wineslob]

Amazing, there are so many nefarious groups "pulling the strings" in this country, I'm surprised the pRESident can get anything done.   



 

[Karin]

There's a certain posting style that the DUmmies use that is really grating on me.  It's starting a post with "So," and ending with a question mark.  As in:

So breaking bread with theocrats,

At an event sponsored by theocrats is OK now?

I didn't have debate team at my government school.  What is this annoying device called? 

[GOBUCKS]

There's a certain posting style that the DUmmies use that is really grating on me.  It's starting a post with "So," and ending with a question mark.  As in:

I didn't have debate team at my government school.  What is this annoying device called?

It's a DUmbass being obnoxiously disingenuous.

[DLR Pyro]

MadHound (30,140 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore


 So I see that once again Obama bows to The Family and attends the National Prayer Breakfast
For those of you who don't know, The Family is a fundamentalist religious group that converts and controls politicians in order to control the levers of power in DC. There are excellent exposes of The Family, the best being Jeff Sharlet's "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power."

Each year, The Family puts on The National Prayer Breakfast. Part public piousness, part homage, politicians of all stripes are compelled to attend, because they either seek, or fear the power that The Family controls.

Sad to see our President bending knee at this event once again. A shame that he doesn't have the courage to reject them for the theocratic organization that they are. 

mad dog do you have the moral conviction to show obama how much you disagree with his pandering to the "fundies" by not voting for him next November.  Or did you just want to come on the interweb to build up DU cred with your ginned up outrage that your hero zero leader is breaking bread with the "theocrats"?

[delilahmused]

I don't know, I'd think they'd be quite happy considering how 0bama mangled Jesus' ministry. Who knew the Lord wanted a half Arab-Kenyan/half white guy to become president of the US just so he could tax all the rich people thus enriching the coffers of 0bamaCeaser who can then give benevolently to those who will work hardest for his reelection. Maybe it's my translation.

Cindie

[Duke Nukum]

usticeischeap (6,658 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. Yet, he used the event to gently smack down all of the GOP

and their stance against helping people. He talked about how his faith in christ was one that states that all those that need help, should get it. It was well-played politically. OTH, I agree, this should not be a function that any politician attends...nor should it be a function that takes place.

I cant say I understand the DUmmie's syntax but doesn't this violate the Official DUmmie Understanding of the Separation of Church and State?

I wonder how Madison's Very Own Freedom From Reality organization takes it?

[JohnnyReb]

Ever once in a pale blue moon I learn something from DU.

Today I learned about "THE RAINBOW FAMILY!"

What a bunch of idiots.

That's more likely.

[Ogre]

There's a certain posting style that the DUmmies use that is really grating on me.  It's starting a post with "So," and ending with a question mark.  As in:

I didn't have debate team at my government school.  What is this annoying device called? 

It is annoying, a snark wrapped in a question, smothered in condescending.  I think Nad's perfected the recipe.

[miskie]

It is annoying, a snark wrapped in a question, smothered in condescending.  I think Nad's perfected the recipe.

Nads Recipe is a little different - she smothers hers in stupid.

[Freeper]

I cant say I understand the DUmmie's syntax but doesn't this violate the Official DUmmie Understanding of the Separation of Church and State?

I wonder how Madison's Very Own Freedom From Reality organization takes it?

Yes that would violate their separation stance, but then again they want higher taxes so if Jesus really was for the government taking money from people and giving it to the poor they would overlook it.

Like always they have no clue what Jesus really taught, he never once said that anyone anywhere had to do anything by force, he wants people to willingly reach in their own pockets and help out their fellow man, not reach into their neighbor's pocket and hand out his cash.

[JakeStyle]

There's a certain posting style that the DUmmies use that is really grating on me.  It's starting a post with "So," and ending with a question mark.  As in:

I didn't have debate team at my government school.  What is this annoying device called? 

It's sort of like how some women end every sentences on a high note, as if everything they say is a question.  It's very popular here in California and it annoys the hell out of me. 

[movie buff]

Okaaaay.
"MadHound" is officially psychotic (Let me guess: He is also a 9/11 troofer, and believes in chemtrails), and though I know it's quite early, I'd say his remarks on that thread alone should be enough to earn him consideration for one of the Top DUmmies of 2012.
"Logical (3,611 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. Someday, maybe 50 years from now, this stupid country will not need a prayer breakfast."
But remember, don't you DARE question the DUmmies' patriotism or portray them as smug, condescending elitists!

jody will likely be tombstoned before too long.
"This is a secular nation, at least nominally, and by continuing to pander and play politics, even if it is just tacitly, with these people he simply continues to allow the further insinuation of religion into our body politic."
1. No, it is not a secular nation. While we allow for freedom of religion, our nation is at its root a Christian nation, founded on Christian principles.
2. There is nothing in the Constitution against "Insinuating" faith into aspects of politics. What the Establishment Clause (Which idiotic, anti- Christian liberals such as MadHound mistakenly believe calls for "separation of church and state") says is that the government is not allowed to establish an official state religion (i.e. the Church of England) that people are forced to follow. The National Prayer Breakfast and other such functions do not violate that in any way.

"Theocratic rule, of any sort, has never worked well, but rather brought mass suffering and pain. We see that in Iran and elsewhere today, so why would it work well here? "

1. We on the right have made the same point regarding Communism and Socialism many times in the past, yet left- wing idiots like the DUmmies still feel that if it were adopted and practiced in America today, it'll somehow turn out differently than it has in any of the countless other nations which have been turned into nightmarish dictatorships through adopting Communism.
2. Iran and other theocracies are Islamic, not Christian. Christianity, unlike Islam, has evolved enough over the centuries that it has easily adapted to modern society, and thus if America were to somehow turn into a Christian theocracy just because a president attended a National prayer Breakfast, it would not cause anywhere near the kind of suffering seen in today's Islamic theocracies, if any suffering at all.

[Delmar]

It's sort of like how some women end every sentences on a high note, as if everything they say is a question.  It's very popular here in California and it annoys the hell out of me. 

Sean Hannity does that too.  The other thing he does that bugs me is his overuse of the word literally.

[JohnnyReb]

Obama will play any part, tell any lie, neccessary to get his hand in your pockets to steal monay so he can buy votes for the G** D*** Democrats.

[AprilRazz]

white_wolf (3,690 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

45. If these were the average person the street, I'd say you have a point.

These people aren't average. They are fanatics, they can't be reasoned with, they are convinced they alone know the truth. 

Funny how I would say the exact same thing about most of the primitives.
Obama uses religion when he thinks there is political gain in it for him. Look how fast he threw his racist preacher under the bus when it didn't suit him.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Are these the same people yip-yip-yipping in another thread about Obama laying a theological smackdown on fundies using Bible verses about charityto justify comandeering ever-larger swathes of peoples' private lives with government meddling?

No cries about melding church and state there.

[Boudicca]

Are these the same people yip-yip-yipping in another thread about Obama laying a theological smackdown on fundies using Bible verses about charityto justify comandeering ever-larger swathes of peoples' private lives with government meddling?

No cries about melding church and state there.

They never seem to complain about all the black churches allowing Dem candidates to use them as a bully pulpit either.  Too busy being outraged at every Rep candidate appearance at a church service.