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Kentuck falls out of the sink
« on: January 27, 2012, 01:56:13 PM »
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Are liberal expectations out of sync with reality?
This President gets a lot of criticism from many on his left because they do not feel he has done as much as he should or as much as he could have in the last 3 years.

At the same time, many Democrats praise the President as doing a great job keeping the Republicans in check and getting this economy back on the right track.

Which of these two camps is correct or does the truth lie somewhere in the middle?

There is little doubt but that the economy was in the pits when the President took office. Did he handle it correctly or could he have done it differently? Of course, hindsight is 20/20.

Will his Presidency leave a lasting legacy that is beneficial to the majority of people in this country? Or will we be deeper in the clutches of the 1% when his 2nd term is over?

The President's supporters say that it is not about an "ideal" - it is about a choice. We have to compare this President to what we might get if he is defeated. Isn't that a fair point?

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1. Some people appear to have wanted a liberal version of George Bush.

Someone who would run roughshod over Congress, enact laws by fiat, and generally govern for a select percentage of his base and say "**** anyone who feels differently."

That would feel really satisfying, no doubt, but as the Republicans have proven it's not a policy that results in long-term stability either as a government or as a party.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002229949
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 02:07:51 PM »
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Are liberal expectations out of sync with reality?
When dear leader said electing him will "slow the rise of the oceans" and start healing the planet I think liberals (stupidly) just took him at his word.
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 02:41:01 PM »
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1. Some people appear to have wanted a liberal version of George Bush.

Someone who would run roughshod over Congress, enact laws by fiat, and generally govern for a select percentage of his base and say "**** anyone who feels differently." That would feel really satisfying, no doubt, but as the Republicans have proven it's not a policy that results in long-term stability either as a government or as a party. 
Ya, like make appointments while congess is technically in session.
Appoint numerous "czars" with little approval or oversight.
Invoke executive privilege to get his own way.
etc
etc.
All for political gain.
Yup, BO ought to do that, just like Bush. :rotf:
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 02:46:53 PM »
Quote from: Skul on January 27, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Ya, like make appointments while congess is technically in session.
Appoint numerous "czars" with little approval or oversight.
Invoke executive privilege to get his own way.
etc
etc.
All for political gain.
Yup, BO ought to do that, just like Bush. :rotf:
You left out the signing statements...that he personally made a stink about when he was a senator.
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 03:16:18 PM »
When you ask this...

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Are liberal expectations out of sync with reality?

... and believe this...

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At the same time, many Democrats praise the President as ... getting this economy back on the right track.

... then the question answers itself.

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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 03:55:29 PM »
hindsight is 20/20. ...and DUmmies are born blind...both ways. :-)
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 04:02:47 PM »
You know, Kentuck has been doing some of this lately.  Asking a question as an OP that ever so carefully questions where he is.  He once asked "if liberal ideas are right and true, why doesn't the whole country believe in them?"  Don't remember exactly how the hive handled the question, but it was along the lines of "everybody's brainwashed."  "Everybody's stupid." 
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 04:34:27 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on January 27, 2012, 02:46:53 PM
You left out the signing statements...that he personally made a stink about when he was a senator.
That was one of the etc's. :tongue:

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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 07:11:06 PM »
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Are liberal expectations out of sync with reality?

Yes.  Liberal ideology has always been out of sync with reality.
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Re: Kentuck falls out of the sink
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 07:14:30 PM »
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Are liberal expectations out of sync with reality?
This makes "Why did the chicken cross the road?" sound like a rational, intelligent point of debate.
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