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Offline Carl

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Genius primitive needs help.
« on: January 26, 2012, 02:32:33 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002224388

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 Hey friends, need a little quick help with some fact links about the 1% screwing the 99%
I know it's lame of me to ask, but I need to do this quick so I'm going to ask for some links I can post. The google search is going too slowly and I'm hoping that a bunch of you will be able to help me with some undeniable facts I can post. I've been carrying on a conversation/argument with a guy on facebook about the Occupy Patriots and he's...not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm just not ready to give up on him. He's clearly bought into the meme that Occupy is all about jealousy of the rich (classic projection there??) and I've finally wrangled him into a spot where he's asking for facts. Yeah,he is the stupid one,you have him right where he wants you.I'm going to continue searching and googling but if some of you good folks can offer assistance, who knows? Maybe I can reach this guy. I've gone out of my way not to use ad hominem (tempted though I may be, he really is a doofus) so I don't think his mind is totally closed.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Please keep it simple! As I said this guy is not the smartest person you'll ever run into. But I hope to reach him, and I'll continue my own research in the meantime.

Thanks so much,

 

So much irony.

Now to hear all the facts that the DUmp can come up with.

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1. Massive inequality destroyed Rome.

It's doing the same thing here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/romans/fallofrome_article_01.shtml#two

Rome was part of Wall Street?

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navarth (2,909 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. thanks, Mr. lumberjack

Appreciate the link. I think it would be good to show this guy that inequality is bad; but he needs facts about how the 1% rig the system to create the inequality.

I like your Smedley Butler avatar. Good on ya.

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cbayer (103,099 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. What are your thoughts on how the 1% have screwed the 99%?

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navarth (2,909 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. referring to me?

My thoughts are no doubt the same as yours...I think the 1% buys elections to control how the system gets rigged, for instance, using Citizen's United to do it with impunity.

But you see, I've already done all this with the guy. What I need are absolute rock solid facts that he can't discount as 'just my opinion'.

Does that answer your question? I'm not sure if I understood it. In any event, thanks for the response, I do appreciate it.

Good luck.

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cbayer (103,099 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. I guess I am unsure as to what you mean by "rock solid facts".

Could you be more specific?

 

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Kellerfeller (113 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I'm not sure what kind of facts would help

Determining the "real" motivation of the movement would be difficult to prove.

Even if they were carrying signs saying " this isn't about jealousy", your "friend" would/could easily discount them as being propaganda to hide what he believes to be the "real" motivation since jealousy would feed into the criticism.


 

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PETRUS (1,818 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

20. Good luck.

Often enough, these arguments are lost causes.

Your debate adversary probably believes that we have equality of opportunity and a level playing field. The myth of equality of opportunity should be easy enough to dispel - common sense is enough to understand that (for starters, access to quality education, nutrition, healthcare, etc. is largely a function of where and to whom you are born). But most people don't understand economics, finance, and the law well enough to fully grasp how heavily tilted the playing field is.

 

Just like here when a super smart leftist(Ohio Barbarian the latest) shows up,they are charged with providing facts to support their assertions and that is the last we see of them.
Facts and DUmmies are like anti matter to matter.
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 02:47:27 PM »
He didn't get too far in the thread.  Some people provided Bill Moyers and Mother Jones links.   :yawn:
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 02:50:09 PM »
I think DUmmy navarth is a very unskillful and soon-to-be former mole.
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 02:55:02 PM »
Morons. What about "sooner or later you run out of other peoples money" don't they understand? Do they think people will just work their ass of so they can suck the tit!!
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 03:34:47 PM »
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He's clearly bought into the meme that Occupy is all about jealousy of the rich (classic projection there??)

WTF?  :mental:
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 03:38:22 PM »
That thread just proves the fact that the libs run their mouth about things they have very little real grasp of and then are unable to prove their point with something tangible when asked to back up their statements. Conjecture and speculation replace hard cold facts on DU. Whenone of them speculates on something and a critical mass of DUers accept it then it becomes fact.
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 03:43:47 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 26, 2012, 03:34:47 PM
WTF?  :mental:

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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 03:52:20 PM »
They're facts, Jim, but not as we know them.

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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2012, 04:18:00 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 26, 2012, 02:50:09 PM
I think DUmmy navarth is a very unskillful and soon-to-be former mole.

I agree!
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Re: Genius primitive needs help.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 04:26:39 PM »
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Occupy Patriots
  :rofl:  :stoner: is all those idiots cared about.

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He's clearly bought into the meme that Occupy is all about jealousy


What part of "we want YOUR shit for nothing" don't you understand?


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Hey friends, need a little quick help with some fact links about the 1% screwing the 99%


Yup, I'd like to see some cold, hard, evidence backing up this stupid meme.............I won't be holding my breath...


The stupid...it hurts............ :hammer:
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