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Via MEMRI TV,  I’m actually sort of charmed that a left-wing jurist thinks it matters much what’s written in a nation’s constitution. Our Supreme Court managed to tease a right to abortion out of a clause governing legal procedure, didn’t it? Seventy years earlier, a right-wing Court teased a right of contract out of the same provision. If you can do that, there ain’t much you can’t do. In fact, we’re on the cusp right now of Congress being granted a new power to force Americans to buy certain products; the clause responsible for that, which deals with regulating commerce between states, was somehow used a few years ago to reach marijuana grown in someone’s own backyard for their own use — with conservative support, do note. A smart, aggressive judge can make a document say nearly anything. The constitution sets certain goalposts, granted, but there’s a lottttt of space between them for a skilled kicker to aim.
 
Ginsburg’s fondness for South Africa’s constitution, I take it, comes from the fact that their bill of rights includes welfare-state guarantees like the right to housing and the right to health care. In an age when the western world is starting to collapse under the weight of entitlements, she seems to prefer a model that would make it even harder to reform those entitlements through normal democratic means. That’s the last thing Egypt needs given how deep its economic problems run; there’s no way the government will be able to vindicate those rights anytime soon, so why make any promises? But they will promise, no doubt, because that’s what Egyptians are expecting, and if the new regime can’t keep its promise then it’ll simply revert to Mubarak tactics to quiet popular discontent. That’s the other unspoken punchline here, of course — that culture matters at least as much as what’s in the constitution, and probably more. No doubt Coptic Christians will have the right to free speech under whatever Egypt’s new parliament comes up with, just as North Koreans constitutionally have the right to vote, but how long do you think that’ll last under a government dominated by Islamists? In fact, note that the other model she mentions here is Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which somehow failed to prevent Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant from being hassled for criticizing Islam by Canada’s Orwellian human rights Star Chamber. A constitution is as good as the political culture that surrounds it. Ginsburg would have been better off reminding Egyptian TV of that.

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Hell, they may as well use ours, we aren't using it right now.  Of course maybe she meant that ours is too weak and there are no requirements for congress to take action when the president acts in an illegal manner.

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The founding fathers wrote a constitution that could be understood by the common man....but when it's read by the bestest and brightest who don't know what the definition of "IS" is...well....we're up the creek.
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Hell, they may as well use ours, we aren't using it right now.  Of course maybe she meant that ours is too weak and there are no requirements for congress to take action when the president acts in an illegal manner.
:lmao: Yeah that's what she meant i'm sure.  :lmao: I'm surprised she didn't literally take a copy of it out of her pocket and wipe her ass with it.
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Ginsburg to Egyptians: I wouldn't use U.S. Constitution as a model


and she is suppose to be the last line of defense to uphold our constitution?
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What's an impeachable offense for a Supreme Court judge?
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What's an impeachable offense for a Supreme Court judge?
see above for prime example


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What's an impeachable offense for a Supreme Court judge?

Does the Constitution even allow for impeaching a supreme court justice?  I just re-read article III and I don't see it in there unless I am misreading the article.
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Does the Constitution even allow for impeaching a supreme court justice?
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Does the Constitution even allow for impeaching a supreme court justice?  I just re-read article III and I don't see it in there unless I am misreading the article.

March 12, 1804, Associate Justice Samuel Chase was impeached by the House of Representatives.....he was acquitted in the Senate......

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Thanks Doc.

Apparently the COTUS does allow for it.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas, 1944

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As much as I am not a huge fan of any of the GOP candidates still in the race,  I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination just because of any potential SCOTUS appointments.

IMO, it will be more important than the guy that ends up in the oval office.
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Apparently the COTUS does allow for it.


until the scotus says it doesnt

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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas, 1944

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She finally read The Constitution and realized Islam doesn't allow freedom of religion.
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That slut needs to be impeached.
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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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she'll be on obamacare soon enough
the old die first, or so im told

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she'll be on obamacare soon enough
the old die first, or so im told

With any kind of luck...
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The scrawny little beotch Ginsberg once wrote that the legal age for sexual consent for girls should be "twelve" (12)....the child molesting Muslims should love her.
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."  Stalin