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Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« on: November 23, 2011, 04:03:56 PM »
Bachmann up, then down.
Perry same. Cain same. Gingrich currently up... but for how long?

Answer: IT DOESN'T MATTER.

First, let's be clear: Debate performance is NOT the most important tenet of this year's race. In the end, the performance in the primaries, ONCE we get past New Hampshire, will be the REAL race.

If you were to look at this as an Indy 500 race, all a debate proves is not who is going to win, but who has the "pole" position at the start of the race. Keep in mind that for candidates whom were NOT the sitting president (for a second term) or a vice president (directly from his current VP position), the Iowa and New Hampshire winners did not necessarily win the nomination in the majority of primaries for both democrats and republicans.

What the debates HAVE done, if you have noticed, is see how the candidates act. Some are more polished, some more nuanced, but it is refreshing that we have seen how many of the candidates will project themselves if president.

But the bottom line: debates will NOT change anyone's mind. The iconic statement, "Talk is Cheap", is just as much part of the debate process as a typical conversation in a biker bar. What REALLY happens is how the candidates get their convictions out during the primary process. Even the media won't be able to spin it this time around, because the primaries are the least likely place for national media to work its democratic bias.

One key factor: More people are undecided than are in favor of Romney, which does NOT bode well for him, no matter how sophisticated his ground game is in the states. But rest assured the debates were ONLY the exhibition season. Pole position is decided in Iowa and New Hampshire, and then the race will truly be underway.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 06:13:02 PM »
Anything can happen in six weeks.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 07:20:39 PM »
I thought Herman Cain was "out" of the race by now.

So why have another fake sex allegation??

It's because the left KNOWS that polls don't mean squat. They'd like to manipulate them as much as they can, but the bottom line is that the earlier sexual allegations against Cain did NOT stick, otherwise, he'd be out of the picture by the GOP, not by the public. The GOP is far more intolerant of REAL sexual deviation than the left could EVER be, aside from timely Gloria Alred press conferences.

The real scoop is that the left is SCARED of Herman Cain. Why? Because he is STILL the favorite to win both South Carolina and Florida, the two bigger states in the two weeks after Iowa and New Hampshire. IF he wins both those states, it matters not about Iowa/NH, as that will set the tone for the rest of the primary.

So the left is STILL in full "Get rid of Herman Cain Any Way Possible" mode. Note they aren't doing this for Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich, otherwise they would have double downed on N****head and Newts relationship issues by now. They WILL once one of them becomes a threat once the primaries are underway, but they are doing their DAMNEDEST to make sure Cain is out of the picture from the get go.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 07:28:58 PM »
I am kinda mad, they are coming down so hard on Herman Cain. I will wait till the NH primaries to see who is where to do some soul searching on the reaining candidates..
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 07:46:16 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on November 28, 2011, 07:28:58 PM
I am kinda mad, they are coming down so hard on Herman Cain. I will wait till the NH primaries to see who is where to do some soul searching on the reaining candidates..

The MSM will leave Romney alone until wins the nomination, then they will bring all their forces to bear to ensure another Obama election.  Cain was their biggest threat and therefore their main target.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 07:01:08 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 28, 2011, 07:46:16 PM
The MSM will leave Romney alone until wins the nomination, then they will bring all their forces to bear to ensure another Obama election.  Cain was their biggest threat and therefore their main target.

Just like they did with McLame. Didn't they run this play already? If we haven't learned how to defend it, we don't deserve to win.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 08:12:51 AM »
Cain will want to rise above it, proceed with the campaign....Which seems to be what he is doing....
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 11:05:01 AM »
It seems that this latest accuser has had money problems in the past.  Also, she filed a sexual harrassment suit against the next employer she worked for after she claims that the affair started.

Methinks it stinks to high heaven.  Lin Wood didn't exactly do Cain any favors by almost admitting that there was some affair there, especially if there wasn't.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 11:34:09 AM »
If the primary was today, I'd vote for Newt.

I'd consider Bachman and Cain.

I'd hold my nose for Romney.

Anyone else?  No effin way.
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Re: Up, Down, Upside-Down: Who's REALLY going to win the GOP nomination?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 12:56:45 PM »
Choices down the line

Only 3 with no hesitation: Cain (still, for reasons in other posts), Santorum, Bachmann

Trust, but verify: Gingrich

Nose pinch: Perry, Paul (Congress would rein him in both from liberal and conservative)

Borderline: Romney (Yes, I'd vote Paul before Romney)

NO THIRD PARTY VOTE: The congress should tilt more conservative (constitutional)
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