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Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« on: November 15, 2011, 07:05:37 PM »
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Pro-gay activists have launched a boycott of an Iowa baker who declined to create a wedding cake for a lesbian couple based on her religious beliefs.

Victoria Childress, the owner of Victoria’s Cake Cottage in Des Moines, has been accused of being anti-gay, homophobic, and a bigot after she refused to make a cake for Trina Vodraska and Janelle Sievers.

Childress told Fox News & Commentary that she made five cakes for the couple to taste – unaware that they were lesbians.

“She introduced herself, and I said, ‘Is this your sister?’” Childress said. “She said, ‘No. This is my partner.’”

At that point Childress told the couple that she would not be willing to make their wedding cake.

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 07:18:08 PM »
Their cakes look nice, but I doubt cakes could be shipped very easily.  I hope the decent and civilized people of Des Moines give them their support.

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 02:18:36 PM »
Apparently freedom of expression and freedom of conscience are freedoms that belong only to moonbats shitting on cop cars.[/DUmbshit]

Why not make a cake for a Muslim couple, or a Buddist couple, or a Hindu couple, or just a cake for those with no beliefs ???

Seems to me this company is limited itself to serving a small population.  Lots of luck , I will have to get a cake with Aztec features next time my Friends from Central America visit.----Not from them----


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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 02:20:25 PM »
Why not make a cake for a Muslim couple, or a Buddist couple, or a Hindu couple, or just a cake for those with no beliefs ???

Seems to me this company is limited itself to serving a small population.  Lots of luck , I will have to get a cake with Aztec features next time my Friends from Central America visit.----Not from them----


For some people, vesta, principle is more important than making a buck.

Besides, for all we know, Virginia (the wedding cake baker) may have more business than she can handle BECAUSE of her Christian beliefs.

Sometimes, vesta, you don't think before you type.  :whatever:
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 02:33:45 PM »
I sent Virginia an atta-girl email. She's probably being bombarded with DUmbasses of all kinds, so I wanted to give her a  :II: and my best wishes.
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 05:23:56 PM »
I can't help wondering just how many of them you have to use to make a lesbian cake. 
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 05:45:05 PM »
I can't help wondering just how many of them you have to use to make a lesbian cake. 

Probably about as many as the Girl Scouts you use in a batch of Girl Scout cookies.

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 05:51:28 PM »
MMMMMMMMM Lesbian cake.

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 05:57:38 PM »
MMMMMMMMM Lesbian cake.

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 06:10:50 PM »
Made from Soylez Green.

As long as it has electrolytes then it's all good.  :-)

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 06:00:14 AM »
For some people, vesta, principle is more important than making a buck.

Besides, for all we know, Virginia (the wedding cake baker) may have more business than she can handle BECAUSE of her Christian beliefs.

Sometimes, vesta, you don't think before you type.  :whatever:

What principle are we speaking of here ?     Will she sell a cake to a Black, to a Democrat, or make cakes for a Bar mitsva??

Last I heard in a free society when one has the money in hand and wish to buy an item that is made for profit  and available to the public the vendor has no right to refuse to sell anyone. {unless the item is restricted to age limits. tobacco, booze etc.}

Shades of Germany when shop keepers would not sell food to their Jewish customers.

Aside from all that, the cakes look like art work, too beautiful to eat, and destroy. Now I am wondering just what the Girls wanted for a top piece, what the heck do Gays have on top of a wedding cake.??? 

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 09:14:08 AM »
What principle are we speaking of here ?     Will she sell a cake to a Black, to a Democrat, or make cakes for a Bar mitsva??

Last I heard in a free society when one has the money in hand and wish to buy an item that is made for profit  and available to the public the vendor has no right to refuse to sell anyone. {unless the item is restricted to age limits. tobacco, booze etc.}

Shades of Germany when shop keepers would not sell food to their Jewish customers.

Aside from all that, the cakes look like art work, too beautiful to eat, and destroy. Now I am wondering just what the Girls wanted for a top piece, what the heck do Gays have on top of a wedding cake.??? 

Now you're starting to sound like an idiot again.

I have a little extra time this morning, so I'll spell it out for you though what I'm talking about is clearly indicated in the OP's link (in other words, READ THE DAMNED LINK BEFORE YOU TYPE, VESTA).

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The Iowa Civil Rights Act was amended in 2007 to include protections for sexual orientation. The couple told the television station they had not decided whether they would file a Civil Rights complaint against the baker.


In general, civil rights laws protect minorities (like queers, lesbians, blacks, Hispanics, and even white people, as odd as that may sound) from things like housing discrimination, illegal voting processes, bigoted hiring practices, and even infrastructure like facilities (separate restrooms for blacks and whites, for example).

The civil rights law does not stop a proprietor for refusing to serve a prospective customer. Furthermore, that prospective customer is not prohibited from obtaining a wedding cake elsewhere - in this case, the proprietor made it clear that her own principles prohibited her from providing a service to the two rugmunchers. The fact that they're rugmunchers is not an issue -- only the principle involved WITHIN THE PROPRIETOR HERSELF.

Now, I'm not a betting man but I'd wager a small sum that some jackass lawyer is going to take this issue to an Iowa court. This proprietor is going to have to pony up some money for defending her core principles.

THAT is a complete waste of resources, but is merely another mouthpiece for the gay agenda. You refuse to serve somebody? Be prepared to defend your decision in court.

That's almost as much a travesty as your own refusal to look at the facts, do your own homework, and present your own opinon.
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 10:59:43 AM »
Now you're starting to sound like an idiot again.

I have a little extra time this morning, so I'll spell it out for you though what I'm talking about is clearly indicated in the OP's link (in other words, READ THE DAMNED LINK BEFORE YOU TYPE, VESTA).

In general, civil rights laws protect minorities (like queers, lesbians, blacks, Hispanics, and even white people, as odd as that may sound) from things like housing discrimination, illegal voting processes, bigoted hiring practices, and even infrastructure like facilities (separate restrooms for blacks and whites, for example).

The civil rights law does not stop a proprietor for refusing to serve a prospective customer. Furthermore, that prospective customer is not prohibited from obtaining a wedding cake elsewhere - in this case, the proprietor made it clear that her own principles prohibited her from providing a service to the two rugmunchers. The fact that they're rugmunchers is not an issue -- only the principle involved WITHIN THE PROPRIETOR HERSELF.

Now, I'm not a betting man but I'd wager a small sum that some jackass lawyer is going to take this issue to an Iowa court. This proprietor is going to have to pony up some money for defending her core principles.

THAT is a complete waste of resources, but is merely another mouthpiece for the gay agenda. You refuse to serve somebody? Be prepared to defend your decision in court.

That's almost as much a travesty as your own refusal to look at the facts, do your own homework, and present your own opinon.
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Well, it is difficult for me in my age range to even think of gay marriage.   Unknown in my time and never spoken of----men who never married in the family were called bachelors and single woman who never married were called Old Maids. No one ever asked questions of these family members----They became sex less beings to the family's. Any question of why an aunt or uncle never married were greeted with a blank stare and the answer was all ways, --They did not want to marry. 

Never was there a sexual connection for them, even for the single brothers and sisters that lived together for life. Or sisters and sisters and brothers and brothers, single woman that had a female Friend or a Bachelor with a life long friend, no raised eye brows.

I came up this way learning it best not to ask questions.   

I was in my late teens when I first began to learn about Queers, I still was not sure what that meant but as time went on I learned.    It was inconceivable to me to think that the same sex would be attractive to each other,  it was all about boys, boys, boys, attracting a male for a mate.   Getting married, having children, living as our family had done and did.

I look back today and see how protected I was from the other side of life.  Darn I was 32 years old when I met an open Gay.   

Now as I get old, I see both sides of the story, some very alarming and some all so sad.  My generation trying to move on into the next and understand it is difficult.

I still say, if I wish to sell a, say, chair to the public and the public comes to me with money in hand wearing a swatchsticker tattoo on forehead, they have the right to buy the chair, I am there to sell, not to make judgements.    I may have to go into the bathroom to throw up after the sale, but who am I to refuse a customer for any reason.--This customer may be an American Indian that uses the sign of the ancients for all I know.

I would hate to have my heart set on a product I can pay for and be refused for color, sex, religion, or the place I live. Seldom do I see anything up for sale with a sign, for Methodists only

. I do remember as a young child signs outside restaurants and bathrooms at the airport of --Whites only. 
 Others had colored only and I thought that meant the toilets were painted blue or red.   So I wandered into a colored bathroom and had some nice Lady's escort me out, I was so disappointed that all the fixtures were the same as in the white only bathroom.

My generation has had to survive remarkable changes in life style, most confuse us, we get that technology shock all the new and different stuff we have to learn to use.   Life style is even more shocking then the Micro Wave.


 All the dirty hidden secrets we pushed back in our brain is now coming to the fore front.  All this stuff we may have thought was going on but refused to believe has now popped out into the open.

Go back to Ben Franklin and his bringing over from France  Von Steuben , a man disgraced in his country for his fondness for young boys. Old Ben did not give a hoot about his sex life and knew he could train and make a difference at Valley Forge.  This Von Steuben did and helped win the war.


Yes I know I am wandering about as I read and learn things I was never taught.   I have learned more about sex in the last 10 years then I did in the last 40 + years just watching the news.

So what do we think should go on the top of a Gay wedding cake???
     

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 11:54:04 AM »

Needless blather snipped -- a whole shitload of it.

So what do we think should go on the top of a Gay wedding cake???    

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What should go on top a gay wedding cake? Oh, I dunno.....maybe a strap-on lathered up with a bit of butter cream frosting.  :whatever:
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 12:00:11 PM »
I can't help wondering just how many of them you have to use to make a lesbian cake.

It depends on how thinly you slice them.
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
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Vodraska told KCCI that she was offended by Childress.

“It was degrading,” she told the television station. “It was like she chastised us for wanting to do business with her. I know Jesus loves me. I didn’t need her to tell me that. I didn’t go there for that. I just wanted to go there for a cake.”

She wants degrading. Come on down!  :hammer:  :bird:

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2011, 10:12:40 AM »
I can't help wondering just how many of them you have to use to make a lesbian cake. 


It may take awhile, the frosting keeps getting licked off..........
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2011, 11:09:38 AM »
She wants degrading. Come on down!  :hammer:  :bird:





EXCUSE ME, some of you are beginning to remind me of the Puritan Days, burn or hang the witch, run the Catholics out of Mass into RI.  Quakers be darn the heathens, drag them behind ox carts 50 miles to be put on the block in Boston.  

Beyond that , no respectable Mother allows her daughter to date or marry a Sailor, 1938, dogs and sailors keep off the grass.  My Mom did this, married Dad and found she and family were looked down upon until WW2 broke out.

No Irish or Italians need apply for jobs, no property to be sold to the French.    No Blacks allowed in town after sundown, Only English Men and mad dogs go out in the noon day sun.

Respectable woman have pure white skin and never go out side the house without a hat and gloves. The white woman that tan do so as they are out side working and no respectable lady works for a living.

Heard and read all this of society's mores from family and books.     So today if these girls were interracial would anyone deny selling them gas, food or give them a bank loan or sell them a ricking cake?????

Some of you give me the creepy crawlies as I look back on history.    At one time only respectable woman lived together, it was the loose woman that chose to live with a anyhow times have changed.

Sometimes some of the Conservative men remind me of the picture painted and reproduced in the 1900's.

Showed a brightly lit house in the middle of a snow storm.    A female carrying an infant is making her way to the house, on the porch stands a male figure point away, telling her to go perish with the child as they have to uphold morals and she or child are no longer wanted.

Give me a break, if like sex wish to have a sham wedding, and now our Military allows this, when the government approves of this, what the hell can I say.????

Society's mores change as time goes on, the unthinkable happens all the time and is approved of.

Unthinkable a few years ago that Blacks could sit in the front of a bus, Unthinkable that today a business owner could bar whoever they pleased to sit at their counters or have to serve them.

I remember my folks confusion when the Sac base came to town.   The  Black airmen serving over seas were returning with white wives, Scandinavian , German, you name it.---New and so different to my family a reality they took years to adjust to.

Now a new reality, the single sex folk, strange to our thinking, frightens those that never gave a thought, But we have no choice but to hide and watch as society changes.

Just wait until one of you has a gay son that wants you at their wedding to another male, if you refuse you may regret this for the rest of your life.  Options here a child is yours as long as you live, loose their love and respect because you have values more important to you then that child-----Toss up----some win and some loose.    Sad as most likely your sons mother will show up, what does she care just as long as her child is happy.

I still am curious about what goes on the top of a wedding cake for Lesbians.


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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 01:44:07 PM »
The lady refusing to make the cake didn't do anything wrong.  Its her right to refuse the customer.  However, if her business dries up all together then I won't really feel sorry for her either.  The women who were refused, well, they just want some damn attention.   :bird:

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Yes chris I do get upset and tend to go on and on. It is just me, the way I am, the way I feel about some odd things, life is complicated and for those in my age bracket kind of insane. 

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2011, 03:09:00 PM »


I still am curious about what goes on the top of a wedding cake for Lesbians.



I don't know; maybe we could put you on top of it since you are so enamored with these misfits. Or, they could just ask the lady to make a regular cake, and these perverts could go to a porn shop and finish decorating it themselves. Oh, and playing the race card is just retarded.  
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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2011, 03:17:22 PM »
I don't know; maybe we could put you on top of it since you are so enamored with these misfits. Or, they could just ask the lady to make a regular cake, and these perverts could go to a porn shop and finish decorating it themselves. Oh, and playing the race card is just retarded.  

Are you calling them misfits because they are Lesbians or because they made a stink about the cake?

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Re: Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian Cake
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2011, 04:14:29 PM »
Are you calling them misfits because they are Lesbians or because they made a stink about the cake?

Take your pick.