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nadin starting early.
« on: November 11, 2011, 03:30:48 PM »
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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 03:26 PM
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Class. We in the us like to think it does not exist
 But it is very real. We are probably starting to see it in things like " thank you for your service." I am almost willing to bet that middle to upper class vets like those words. Alas I don't really move in those circles. Working class vets want what they were promised, which they have to fight for. And just do not get me started on homeless and poor vets. What do you think they'd rather have, a few empty to their ears words, or three square, a roof and the care they need?

So yes, there s a very good chance this "division" in opinion is very much so class related.

We've been here before. It was out of that dichotomy that Starship Troopers came from. Yes, the background was veterans finally having it with empty promises.

That was a novel, but real life is...that this very probably is class...the kind of social division that in the myth of the US does not exist. Someone please translate that.

So I will stand by what I have said, those words are hollow and empty until we do right by these men and women. Say them if you must. But realize not all of us think is propper, perhaps due to the vets we've met over the years.
 

Get over it nads,you are still an idiot.

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Brickbat  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-11-11 03:31 PM
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2. I think the "division in opinion" has nothing to do with class, and everything to do with you having
 to be right all the time.

 :lol:

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 03:34 PM
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3. Anything with more substance would be good
 And are you denying there is a very high level of homelessness and unemployment among vets?

You think that has nothing to do with class?

 

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Brickbat  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-11-11 03:37 PM
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7. I think the difference in opinion between you and other people on the appropriateness of thanking
 vets for their service has nothing to do with class. I think you don't like to have people disagree with you publicly and are looking for a way to be right. Class has a lot to do with the issues veterans face, but it has nothing to do with whether someone thinks it's appropriate to say "thank you for your service" to a veteran

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 04:22 PM
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9. So you are denying those issues are real?
 Ok...I am just giving you a very sociological explanation to a real dynamic. This is but one more example of it. That is all.

For the record unemployment now sands at 12% or so for this population. And look, even the ratigan show is more or less talking of this and how we don't treat outpr vets right. I guess Dylan is also nuts 

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Obamanaut  (1000+ posts)      Fri Nov-11-11 04:01 PM
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8. Earlier you spoke for all veterans. Now you speak for all of the more than
 300 million in the US when you say "We in the us...."

"Some of us...", or "I..." (you *can* claim ownership of your opinion. Really, you can.)

 

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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 03:40:31 PM »
Does anyone besides me think it's about time nadin's husband's been told what she's up to?

When he finds out, I'll bet there'll be no peace in the nadin domicile.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 03:42:01 PM »
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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 04:23 PM
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11. I can't help you
Yes, we know.
You're also incapable of helping yourself. Go read a book or something.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
It's not even 2pm and Nadin is hitting the sauce.  Oh well, at least it's Friday.  I guess.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 04:02:58 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on November 11, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
Does anyone besides me think it's about time nadin's husband's been told what she's up to?

When he finds out, I'll bet there'll be no peace in the nadin domicile.




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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 04:27:58 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on November 11, 2011, 04:02:58 PM



+1   

I'm always wavering between telling him, and letting him find out on his own.

Either way, it won't end well.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 05:04:19 PM »
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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 05:46 PM
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33. Too big a word fer ya?
Sorry, there's no way to kidify this one.
Wow. Stay frosty, nutcase.

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 05:17 PM
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23. I think that's comming from a bullseye on the nail
Uh, yeah. Whatev.

This thread blew up into a nadin vs. the DUmpmonkeys classic. 

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 05:18:05 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Damn, on top of it all she's an unmitigated bitch.











Well, we already knew that.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 05:25:48 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on November 11, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
Wow. Stay frosty, nutcase.
Uh, yeah. Whatev.

This thread blew up into a nadin vs. the DUmpmonkeys classic. 

 


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I think that's comming from a bullseye on the nail

I have to admit that I've never seen a bullseye on a nail.  Can we count that as a new Nadinism?

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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 05:27:44 PM »
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Wait Wut  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 05:48 PM
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36. Yeah. That's it.
 I can't possibly hold a candle to your overwhelming intelligence and psych magazine knowledge. :rolf:
:lol: :rotf:

Nads is having a bovine birthing over this whole thing. :lmao:

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nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 06:23 PM
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46. This chas you so much
 Ignore poster is your friend.

Reaction= hammer meets nail, squarely.   
Nads, deary, you are the nail. :loser:
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 06:31:23 PM »
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nadinbrzezinski   (1000+ posts)             Fri Nov-11-11 05:15 PM
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22. I am, surprised, just not an American vet
   
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 05:16 PM by nadinbrzezinski
And I am married to one, and my BIL is one too...my niece is too...did I mention my BIL's brother? That's just direct.

Any other questions?

Oh yeah, I am pointing to this as a sociological dynamic. Perhaps I could, but shan't recommend a few books. I suspect I hit this nail in the head though...

Now she's went and hit the nail in the head.

She's referring to "nail" a lot. Wonder what Freud would say.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 06:43:02 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on November 11, 2011, 06:31:23 PM
Now she's went and hit the nail in the head.

She's referring to "nail" a lot. Wonder what Freud would say.
He would say she has an unheathy obsession with them tinger fips. :whistling:
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 06:45:44 PM »
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did I mention my BIL's brother?

Wouldn't her BIL's brother also be her brother-in-law?  If my BIL had a brother, I'm almost positive he would also be my BIL.  Unless BIL means something completely different to Nadin.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 06:47:51 PM »
What the hell is she talkking about?

Homeless Veterans?  I've known a few.  They hadn't the foggiest what a DD214 is, and they wouldn't let anyone cross check their name and social with military records.  I wonder why?  I am not to say they don't exist.

Working class veterans?  You means people who served and actually have a job?  What the hell is the "working class"?  Does Nadine dare say that just because a man makes enough to be comfortable that he doesn't work?  She may be a drunk, but she is a jackass regardless.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 07:08:58 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on November 11, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
Wow. Stay frosty, nutcase.
Uh, yeah. Whatev.

This thread blew up into a nadin vs. the DUmpmonkeys classic. 

 


She even pulled the "Meta sociological level" card out,whatever the hell that means. :rotf:
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 07:10:39 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on November 11, 2011, 06:47:51 PM
What the hell is she talkking about?

Homeless Veterans?  I've known a few.  They hadn't the foggiest what a DD214 is, and they wouldn't let anyone cross check their name and social with military records.  I wonder why?  I am not to say they don't exist.Working class veterans?  You means people who served and actually have a job?  What the hell is the "working class"?  Does Nadine dare say that just because a man makes enough to be comfortable that he doesn't work?  She may be a drunk, but she is a jackass regardless.
Ya, that's kind of a sore spot.
Can't understand why so many "vets" sit around intersections near the local VA hospital, looking for handouts.
I used to be the commander of a very small VFW post in Colo.
Got calls now and then from "vets" looking for money. (truck stop up the road)
We'd offer to buy them lunch and they'd often refuse.  Wanted money instead.
I don't think we ever had a real one call.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 07:14:49 PM »
Quote from: Skul on November 11, 2011, 05:27:44 PM
:lol: :rotf:

Nads is having a bovine birthing over this whole thing. :lmao:
Nads, deary, you are the nail. :loser:

This was the 44 post she responded to.

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pecwae (1000+ posts)        Fri Nov-11-11 06:19 PM
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44. Why start yet another thread
   to expound upon your theories in another? Why add another element when you've already said all that's necessary?

Really, I just don't get this obsession with thanking vets.

I happen to be a working class vet, have always been a working class vet. I've also worked with homeless vets. Of course, they desire and need the necessities of life exactly like everyone else, but not once in 30 years of working with, living with, on AD and a vet myself have I heard one person complain about being thanked.

Thank them or not as you see fit, but refrain from thinking that yours is the only, the most righteous, opinion on the matter. It isn't.

Lets pretend just once a DUmmy isn`t lying and what does darling nadin do?
Tell the person they are stupid for not seeing it her way.

Nadin you are what the term effing bitch had in mind when it was coined.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 06:13:30 AM »
If there's ever been any online poster I'd love to personally BS with vigor it's her.  I suspect a majority of Skins Island would line up behind me to take a shot.  She's pissed off so many people she's probably afraid to come out of the house despite her vast knowledge of, well, everything.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 08:22:36 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on November 11, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
Does anyone besides me think it's about time nadin's husband's been told what she's up to?

When he finds out, I'll bet there'll be no peace in the nadin domicile.

Perhaps he prefers that she spend all her time on the computer- down the hall, in the spare room, with the door closed.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 09:09:53 AM »
Quote from: Alpha Mare on November 12, 2011, 08:22:36 AM
Perhaps he prefers that she spend all her time on the computer- down the hall, in the spare room, with the door closed.

But I'm sure he needs to know what an ass his wife is making of herself, and by extension, making him look bad.
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Re: nadin starting early.
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2011, 09:21:13 AM »
Quote from: Carl on November 11, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Lets pretend just once a DUmmy isn`t lying and what does darling nadin do?
Tell the person they are stupid for not seeing it her way.

Nadin you are what the term effing bitch had in mind when it was coined.
I think the terms "scrunt" and "blustering skank" fit her personality pretty well too.
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