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Offline Carl

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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« on: September 22, 2011, 12:18:32 PM »
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FLAprogressive  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-22-11 02:35 AM
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
 How can they defend the possibility (and the numerous actual cases) of someone being innocently put to death? Doesn't God, in their view, ultimately decide who dies and for what reason

Yes He does and yes He did.
First response was the one that really made me bring this over.

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Webster Green  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-22-11 02:39 AM
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1. They think Christianity is served up cafeteria style.
 You just go through the teachings of Jesus, and take what you like. 

This posted at the DUmp of all places that only know that Jesus talked about poor people and then mock and reject everything else He proclaimed.

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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-22-11 04:13 AM
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19. People ask why those on the left condemn it but are ok with abortion (nt)
 

TSS is begging for pizza.
No surprise no one answers.

The rest is a bunch of nonsensical ramblings about what Christainaty is from those that hate it.
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 12:22:16 PM »
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?

How do people who profess to care about the innocent defend abortion?

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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 12:25:26 PM »
The primitives don't know shit about Christianity and the death penalty.

The Commandment is "thou shall not commit murder," not "thou shall not kill"--there's a distinction.

Somewhere else in the theology there's the comment that "the rivers ran red with blood because the people refused to exercise judgement"--quite obviously a warning that unless proper and appropriate penalties are exacted for crimes committed against individuals and society, there's trouble.
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 12:28:23 PM »
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.
Genesis 9:6

For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
Romans 13:3-4
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 12:39:46 PM »
I'm no scholar of the bible but Isn't there something like "An eye for an eye?"
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 12:45:34 PM »
Quote from: jukin on September 22, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
I'm no scholar of the bible but Isn't there something like "An eye for an eye?"

And the primitives always misinterpret that.

That's originally from the Code of Hammurabi (although it's in the Bible too) and is one of the fundamentals of our societal, cultural, civic, and legal evolution.

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," was not about getting revenge; it was about an equitable application of justice.

Back in Hammurabi's day--I disremember when, probably circa 2500 B.C. or something--a peasant could be put to death for stealing a handful of grain, while a rich man was not likely to be in trouble even for theft greater than that, or for murder.

Hammurabi established that the punishment should fit the crime, not the socioeconomic status of the criminal.....and that the punishment should never be greater than the crime.
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 12:51:50 PM »
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?

It's not done cafeteria style, as one DU idiot proclaimed.

As was pointed out, the ten commandments do not say "do not kill".  In fact, only a complete and utter moron who's NEVER read the Old Testament could read the ten commandments that way, considering the Hebrews had the death pentalty for lots of offenses.  Context clues are important here, but liberals won't have context because most have never cracked open the Good Book, nor are they smart enough, in the midst of ridiculing the Old Testament for being brutal in its punishments, that in that brutality they would have been violating their own ten commandments had they read scripture the way liberals do.  Idiots.

1) The New Testament tells us why justice must be served, and served swiftly:
"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. -Ecclesiastes 8:11"

So letting someone sit on death row for 18 years is not even Biblical.  It provides little disincentive for other scumbags.

2) The New Testament tells us there is a time for killing:
"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;"- Ecclesiastes 3:1-3

Now, liberals think this time for killing is about 7 babies per minute (in the US) in abortion clinics, but NEVER for a convicted murderer.  Talk about screwed up moral compasses.

3) Paul talks at length about government authority in Romans, and says this:
"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."-Romans 13:4

4) 1 Peter adds:
"Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well." -1 Peter 2: 13-14




 
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 12:52:39 PM »
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FLAprogressive  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-22-11 02:35 AM
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
 How can they defend the possibility (and the numerous actual cases) of someone being innocently put to death? Doesn't God, in their view, ultimately decide who dies and for what reason

Can we see a list of these "numerous" cases of innocent people being put to death?
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 04:14:38 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on September 22, 2011, 12:22:16 PM
How do people who profess to care about the innocent defend abortion?



Commited murder? You are a victim of society / institutional racism / inadequate safety net / bad luck. Now being conceived at an inconvenient time? You need to have your skull crushed, you piece of trash!  :hammer:

Sometimes the hypocrisy of leftism is overwhelming.
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 04:38:20 PM »
I'm not a religious guy, but I seem to recall the Bible being just chock full of people being put to death for one reason or another, and nobody seeming to have much of a problem with it as long as it was the right guy.  Or city.  Or entire ethnic group.

So, I wouldn't say citing the Bible against the DP makes a whole lot of sense. 
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 04:40:21 PM »
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FLAprogressive  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-22-11 02:35 AM
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How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
 How can they defend the possibility (and the numerous actual cases) of someone being innocently put to death? Doesn't God, in their view, ultimately decide who dies and for what reason

This would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

They actually want to do away with the death penalty because an innocent person MAY not be guilty, but the unborn babies they like to murder are definitely innocent.

They claim murdering an innocent unborn baby is okay because it is not yet a person. The unborn baby is just a clump of cells. For arguments sake, let's say that the innocent unborn babies that they like to murder do indeed begin as just a clump of cells. Even in that case the unborn baby eventually becomes more than just a clump of cells. What point is this? At what point does an unborn baby become an actual person? Is it 30 weeks? 28 weeks? 22 weeks? Is it earlier? If you don't know with 100% certainty shouldn't you refrain from murdering unborn babies if you use DUmmie dealth penalty logic?

DU is made up of the world's biggest hypocrites. Are they too stupid to realize it? Or are they just proud of their hypocrisy?
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 05:05:50 PM »
I touched on it briefly yesterday when I wrote "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's."

If the state wants our earthly possessions, let them have em. Material possessions have no value. Money is only good if you don't die today. It had to be a DUmmy that came up with the slogan "Those who die with the most toys, win."

If the state wants our body, give it to em. Our concern is our soul.

To a non believer, death is the end. To the righteous, God fearing Christian, death is the beginning.
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Re: How do people who profess Christianity defend the death penalty?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 08:45:35 PM »
How do people to profess to be the most smartest people on the interwebz, if not the whole wide world, end up adopting so many half-truths and conspiracy theories as beliefs?
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