This thread starts with another of Vinnie's boring, pointless OPs:
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 11:54 AM
Original message
Do you think Obama knows there will be NO jobs created without government spending?
I think he does.
Do you think he will do anything about it?
edit to delete my answer to the second question.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1879598After he edited, it's still so boring it would embarrass stevenumbers.
But then some more imaginative moonbats show up, and things pick up:
Broderick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 11:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. Nationalization of all corporations over 1000 employees
That will get it done!
DUmmy Broderick is a real democrat.
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. Why bother, the government won't be able to run many of these companies very well
They should just print trillions of dollars and hire people to work for the government. What could possibly go wrong with that plan?
Broderick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. Who cares how it is run so to speak
but let's put the money back in the hands of the people instead of a few. Take them all over! That is much better than printing money which drives inflation and devalues the currency. Storm the gated communities so to speak, and take back what is OURS and everyone else in America, instead of the privileged few stealing from the man/woman on the street.
DUmmy Broderick, were he not a lazy, worthless DUmbass, could be a Top Ten contender.
The most important three months of the year are just starting, so any DUmmy who really
gets his crazy on now has a shot.
The top spot may already be sewn up, but the rest of the Top Ten is wide open.
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Who cares how it is run?
when it goes out of business, you lose both the new jobs you created at that company and the people who already had jobs as well. Are you really worried about the economic problems that will result from printing money, but NOT the economic consequences of nationalizing private businesses?
Broderick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Government entities don't go out of business, they grow
The only thing remotely close to consider is the Post Office issues right now but that is because of technology changing more than anything else. Post office isn't going anywhere. I say seize all these companies raping the American public for the wallets of a privileged few.
Good one, DUmmy Broderick!
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. And if they grow while losing money, all we've done expand the size
of our problem and not fix anything.
Broderick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. And the problem is?
Maybe we can run companies like non-profits and let the workers reap the benefits.
Why they turned over GM to fat cats again is beyond me.
Most everything is beyond DUmmy Broderick.
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. If the problem were merely an issue of jobs
and the government had money, it would spend massive amounts hiring workers (like in the 30's with the TVA) and upgrading infrastructure. The problem is that government doesn't have, and can't borrow, enough money to really do that effectively. The proposed solution of seizing private assets and using THAT money to create the jobs (leaving aside the constitutionality of it) is that if those companies aren't profitable, they won't be self sustaining, and we'll find ourselves eventually back in the same boat we're in now.
Okay, here is a thumbnail of the Broderick Manifesto:
Broderick (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Take away the tens of millions from CEO fat cat
pay and all the cronies that raid the companies, and they might just be profitable. I say seize the companies and the profits. Don't pay for it. They have stolen enough from this country - time to raid the coffers and put people to work. If a company is running profitably and the CEO is raking in 25M a year - how many additional workers can we employ. I say storm the gates of the neighborhoods we are not allowed in and seize those assets too. Power to the people. Next thing, once we scour their books after seizure - lets incarcerate the robber barons.
Claudia Jones (124 posts) Mon Sep-05-11 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. government agencies are not businesses
They cannot "go out of business" or "go broke."
Talking about government as though it were a business is a right wing stunt used to promote privatization.
From this point, this Claudia DUmmy carries the moonbat torch for a while, giving the exhausted DUmmy Broderick a well-deserved break.
crazyjoe (852 posts) Mon Sep-05-11 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
31. Wow, what a ridiculously stupid statement.
And, he's back.
Broderick (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-06-11 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #31
38. And 1 percent of the population continues to get
50% of the wealth in the country.
shrug.
Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-05-11 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
32. If the purpose is a second Great Depression, yes it will
If the purpose is to gradually improve our economy and our future, no, it won't.
Our government has shown little ability to invest to create growing businesses. It spends money well, but invests money remarkably badly.
And then, if the government were to do this, it would wipe out all the pension funds and people's private retirement savings, precipitating a wholesale crisis, taking down the banking system, and killing off all the union pensions.
If I were you, I'd rethink. You are essentially advocating the Chavez solution; Venezuela under Chavez has become a remarkable failure, which is an extraordinary achievement given oil prices.
Freeper.
