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And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« on: September 01, 2011, 05:34:12 PM »
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Syrinx  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-01-11 11:46 AM
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What is the deal with the Universe?
 Several hours ago, I watched Brian Greene on BookTv. I think he's been on Colbert a couple of times. And he was talking about the Universe.

What would happen if you could fly through the universe at near-infinite speed?

He posited three theories, and I agree with them, because I already thought of them years ago when I was toking up.

Either you come to a wall at the end of space. That doesn't really make sense. Because, what's behind the wall.

Or you end up where you started. The universe is more or less a sphere.

Or you just keep going forever and ever... the Universe is infinite.

I know this question is a cliche. But does anyone know the answer?

I'm leaning to the infinite universe, but how can that be?

What is reality, man?

This stuff just blows my mind, and when I hear a serious discussion about it, it takes me days or weeks to get my mind off it.

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Syrinx  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-01-11 12:11 PM
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2. And I must apologize for saying "near infinite"
 That is non-sensical, and I know it. This kind of stuff is very confusing.

Your linguisitic errors are interminably finite.

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NYC_SKP   (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-01-11 01:12 PM
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7. Not cliche, quite natural.
 Didn't most of us wonder about these things at some early age like 8-10 years old.

Personally I can't see any answer other than infinite.

The LAWS of Thermodynamics say you're a ****ing moron.

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rurallib  (1000+ posts)        Thu Sep-01-11 02:35 PM
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9. or is what we call a universe just one of several universes?
 Maybe some that include more dimensions than we can fathom.
It is a mind boggler for sure

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EOTE  (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-01-11 02:47 PM
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10. I tend to believe in the multiverse.
 The question then arises if all the separate universes are entirely discrete, or do we have the ability to effect them, travel to them and such. I believe variations of superstring theory suggest that we have 20+ spatial dimensions. That we're only capable of really perceiving 3 spatial dimension means that we're only seeing a very tiny fraction of what there is to see.

Carl Sagan did an excellent job of explaining how X-dimensional beings interpret (X+Y) dimensions. Because we interpret things in 3 dimensions, he used the example of a 2-dimensional being confined to a 2-dimensional plane (a piece of paper). A 3-dimensional being visited the 2-dimensional being, but being able to see in 2-dimensions, the 2D being could only see a "slice" of the 3D being at a time. As the 3D being came across the 2D plane, the 2D being could see various slices until it had passed through the plane. So the 2D being could composite those slices to get a better idea of what the 3D being looks like.

Sagan did a far better job of explaining it than I did. We could use more like him now.

 
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 05:54:31 PM »
As if they haven't screwed up the planet enough already they have moved on to  thinking about ways of screwing up the universe.
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 08:02:56 PM »
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What is reality, man?

This stuff just blows my mind
And sometimes, man, I can, like, just stare at my hand for hours, and it's just amazing.
All different colors and stuff.
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 08:06:14 PM »
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 08:20:05 PM »
Wait, what exactly would near infinite speed be?  I mean since infinity is undefined, how does something approach a speed of undefined?   :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 08:20:38 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on September 01, 2011, 08:20:05 PM
Wait, what exactly would near infinite speed be?  I mean since infinity is undefined, how does something approach a speed of undefined?   :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 08:38:19 PM »
Personally, I'm going to wait for nadainthebrain to weigh in before I give my own opinion.
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2011, 10:01:39 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on September 01, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 05:29:23 AM »
I notice that none of them mentions relativistic effects when travelling at that sort of speed...somewhat screws up the basic postulation.
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Re: And we're to trust their every word on evolution, climate change and economics
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 06:07:43 AM »
Quote from: chris_ on September 01, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
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