Hi, I'm new here. I have a question about this forum

[Maxiest]

Well like I said I just got banned from Free Republic and that was a drag after the time I spent there, so I just want to know how things are here before I put in time and energy.  Worried or concerned or careful could all describe how I am approaching this.

Are you marrying the board or did I miss something?

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Beware my dear, there is all ways some one like me that is a bit off the mark.   CC is my home and I am most different then the other posters, think of me as your crazy Aunt Ethel that is locked in the attic and only allowed to come out for Holiday dinners 3 times a year.  Unfortunately I do manage to escape from time to time,-----Call me Aunt Clara from the TV series Bewitched.

Who let her out?

[RonBush]

I agreed with Milton Friedman about legalization of drugs.

I agree about certain drugs, certainly not all.

I am also not sure about legalizing some of the stronger drugs.  Friedman's point is that we have not been able to stop this and the attempt to stop it has done more harm than good.

I don't drink, smoke or take drugs.  I think all these things are unhealthy and destructive.  If I could somehow magically eliminate all cocaine, speed, heroin, alcohol, tobacco,  marijuana and so on, I would do it.  It would make the world a better place.  The point is that I don't have that magical power.  The actual reality of the situation is that we can't stop these things and our attempt to stop them has done more harm than good.

[Gina]

Good.  Thanks.  I'll start posting and getting to know people.  If anyone thinks I should be banned please tell me about it or get me banned right away because I don't want to invest time and energy and get to know people and make friends and then get locked outl

 

If I haven't been banned they you should be fine!

Have you met vesta?

[Rebel]

This sounds like just what I was looking for.  A bunch of nutty people with a sense of humor and open minded curiosity. 

Well look no further fella, you found'em.

[RonBush]

I was just reading a discussion on evolution here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,39124.0.html

There was someone named  Night Owl who seemed to understand the science better than anyone else there, and was trying to explain it to others.  I was going to email him and then I noticed he was banned.   He had over 1500 posts and I have only read a few, but from what I read he seemed OK.  Does anyone here remember him or know why he was banned?

[Gina]

You are way too concerned with banning.

[Odin's Hand]

Yeah, if "having your head squarely up your 4th point of contact" is a science, then TheNightOwl is your guy.

[RonBush]

You are way too concerned with banning.

Thanks.  I think you are correct.  Remember this is only my second day here. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Welcome Ron.  To be honest, we've all kind of united at this site to make fun of liberals.  And as was mentioned up-thread, it is primarily from Democrat Underground.  Regardless of which level of conservatism we all have, it is mostly about having fun here. 

[debk]

Welcome!!

[Eupher]

I was just reading a discussion on evolution here:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,39124.0.html

There was someone named  Night Owl who seemed to understand the science better than anyone else there, and was trying to explain it to others.  I was going to email him and then I noticed he was banned.   He had over 1500 posts and I have only read a few, but from what I read he seemed OK.  Does anyone here remember him or know why he was banned?

You'll need to read a few of his last posts to figure out why TNO was banned.

As I recall, he was pretty much a fly-by poster. He'd come in, shit on the carpet, and then expect somebody else to clean it up after running a thread into the ground. Just sorta the way he operated.

But yeah, before the plug was finally pulled on him, he had amassed quite a few posts -- which is a testament to the tolerance of this site in allowing alternative views to be expressed.

I don't remember why TNO got banned, but I would agree with Gina -- you're waaaay too concerned about that. Just dive in and damn the torpedoes.

[Chris_]

He posted the following about a forum member who is is an active-duty member of the Army, which is a crystal-clear violation of this site's rules and will get you banned in a heartbeat.  This fool was given more than enough leeway when it came to his behavior.

I don't think you're bad because you have to be willing to fight and kill child combatants. I think you're bad because you ****ing enjoy it.  You are clearly mentally unfit to serve as a soldier of the United States. If I were your CO, I would pull you.

link

I would do a little more research before heaping praise on people like TNO.  He was banned for a reason.

[Duke Nukum]

These are some of the things that might have gotten me banned on Free Republic:

I agreed with Milton Friedman about legalization of drugs.

I talked about the economic effects of stricter immigration enforcement.  By the way, I favor stricter immigration enforcement.  I think it will have some positive and some negative economic impacts, but I favor it.  The fact that I mentioned some of the negative economic impacts might have gotten me banned.

I got tired of all the name calling and insults of liberals and I said I thought it was childish.

Once when someone called Obama a socialist I said it depended on your definition of socialist and posted several definitions from dictionaries and discussed how by some definitions he was and by others he was not.

OK, would any of that get me banned here?

Just steer of The DUmpster forum and the DUmping Ground and maybe Mind Numbing Stupidity and you will do fine.

Personally I enjoy calling the odd liberal a name every now and then. Your opinion is duly noted on the matter, and I don't care.

Welcome! 

[Mr Mannn]

You are way too concerned with banning.

Sock puppet?

[RonBush]

Quote from: The Night Owl
I don't think you're bad because you have to be willing to fight and kill child combatants. I think you're bad because you ****ing enjoy it.  You are clearly mentally unfit to serve as a soldier of the United States. If I were your CO, I would pull you.
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I agree that is unacceptable.  I would have banned him for that.

[RonBush]

I finally got around to writing a more detailed bio.  Here it is, and I will also post it in my profile:

I am 61, born in 1950.  I am a retired software engineer/computer programmer.

These are my major conservative influences:

When I was 18 I read just about everything Ayn Rand wrote.  She had a major influence on me.  I later ended up disagreeing with her atheism, but I still have a lot of respect for her. 

In 1980 Milton Freidman published "Free to Choose".  This also had a big impact on me.  Freidman was saying something very similar to Ayn Rand, but he went into a lot more details about how it would work in the real economy.

Throughout the 70's and 80's I was a big fan of William Buckley's show "Firing Line".  I didn't always agree with him, but I almost always respected his logic.  I subscribed to his magazine "National Review" for about a year.  I didn't like it as much as "Firing Line".

When I sas a teenager I liked the firey anger of Ayn Rand, but as I aged I prefered the the calm, friendly, polite, scholarly presentation of Freidman and Buckley. 

Today there is a new breed of angry conservative.  Sometimes I am uncomfortable with the anger, but I am very interested in this new conservative movement and where it is going.  That is the big reason I am here.

I would currently call myself slightly right of center.  I think most of the people here are more to the right than I am. 

[Rebel]

Are you interviewing for something?

[Duke Nukum]

Back in your day, conservatives were depicted as angry paranoid war mongers who wanted to nuke little girls playing with flowers.

Why were you so angry and paranoid back then?  And why did you hate children? When did you decide you didn't want to nuke little girls? What was your pivot point?

[RonBush]

Back in your day, conservatives were depicted as angry paranoid war mongers who wanted to nuke little girls playing with flowers

I think you are referring to the famous TV ad that Johnson used against Goldwater in the 1964 election.  I was only 14 then, but I remember the election clearly.  It is the first one I took much interest in.  I think at that point I may have read a little of Ayn Rand.  In any event I was strongly for Goldwater and felt bad when he lost.

Why were you so angry and paranoid back then?

I think people in general were less angry back then than they are now.  There was probably more paranoia.  The USA and USSR had thousand of nuclear tipped missiles aimed at each other and most people assumed it was likely they would eventually be used.   It was a pretty paranoid situation.  The war with terrorists seems pretty mild in comparison.

And why did you hate children? When did you decide you didn't want to nuke little girls? What was your pivot point?

I don't think I follow you.

[Duke Nukum]

I don't think I follow you.

You are manufacturing a new angry breed of conservative  that you cannot back up with reality.

Liberals are on the rampage but you see angry conservatives.

So, when did you stop being an angry paranoid conservative? Only angry paranoids would be okay with nuking little girls for only playing with flowers. What the hell was wrong with you angry conservatives back in the 1960s?

Okay, really, why are you here? Are you here to lecture us on a new breed of  angry  conservatives that are mostly just media creations just like there were in the 1960s? If so, why are you so gullible? Why not just join the DUmp and be with other gullibles?

[RonBush]

Okay, really, why are you here?

Curiosity.  I'm curious about what sort of people you are, what really motivates you, what you believe.  I may stop posting though, and just read.  You posted a question to me so I decided to respond.  If you are genuinely curious about me I would be happy to interact.  If you are angry and want to fight I would rather not.

Only angry paranoids would be okay with nuking little girls for only playing with flowers

Here is the ad you are talking about.  Take a look at it 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExjDzDsgbww

Read this for some background

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(advertisement)

What year were you born?  Do you remember the cold war?  I need to know that in order to answer your questions.

[Duke Nukum]

Curiosity.  I'm curious about what sort of people you are, what really motivates you, what you believe.  I may stop posting though, and just read.  You posted a question to me so I decided to respond.  If you are genuinely curious about me I would be happy to interact.  If you are angry and want to fight I would rather not.

Here is the ad you are talking about.  Take a look at it 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExjDzDsgbww

Read this for some background

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(advertisement)

What year were you born?  Do you remember the cold war?  I need to know that in order to answer your questions.

Do you have any links that prove there is an angry new breed of conservative or is that just something you make up out of whole cloth and project it onto other people?

How do you intend to figure out what makes us tick when you are already projecting your own ignorant biases on us? Will you not only confirm you bias that way?

You've already completely missed my point. Back in the 1960s Goldwater was said to be an angry breed of conservative. What has changed?

Since I am referencing the infamous Daisy smear campaign  are you not able to figure out I may know something about it?

[Gina]

[BattleHymn]