Author Topic: "My boyfriend's racist best friend... a dilemma." (David__77) (Read 2535 times)

Tess Anderson · « **on:** August 27, 2011, 02:09:04 PM »

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I wonder if David is secretly jealous of this gay sailor:

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David__77 (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-27-11 02:15 PM
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My boyfriend's racist best friend... a dilemma.
Facebook postings sometimes reveal the most terrible things. My boyfriend's best friend has visited often, staying at our house, over the past couple years. He is a gay white guy who is in the US Navy. He posted this racist comment:

"The most American's died during the Civil War to free black men and women, so they could have the same opportunities as white people, yet to this day African Americans feel (from my perspective) that they are still owed something from the white community. This I don't understand. I also don't understand why so many African Americans don't even have the basic 12 years of education like the rest of America. So as far as I'm concerned that was a waste of time."

What was appalling is that a few people "liked" the comment and a couple posted other racist comments in response. I had to say this:

"Black people were "freed" only to be denied voting and civil rights for another century and to be terrorized by KKK and racist cops. Segregated education was inferior for black people and only in the last 45 years or so are things really improving. It seems clear to me why, on average, black people are poorer and have less formal education than white people. It's rooted in a criminal racism. I do wonder if you think that black people are genetically inferior to white people. If so, I think that's wrong. If you don't think they're genetically inferior, why are you even calling our black people specifically?"

I am horrified and enraged by his comment. He is supposed to visit us over Labor Day weekend. I will have a hard time having someone with that belief in my home, let alone sleeping in my home!

Am I overreacting?

Freeper · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:49:31 PM »

You forget one thing Davey who's still in the navy, African Americans have had better than equal rights since the 60's, and during that time have a majority of them climbed out of poverty and taken advantage of the rights given to them, or have they sat on the couch waiting for govt to write them a check? Sadly it seems that a majority have not taken advantage of the opportunities granted to them, those who have, you goons like to call them Uncle Toms, House n**gers and so forth, especially if they vote republican. Not to mention that the bleeding hearts on the left think that blacks need govt to hold their hands, meanwhile us conservatives believe that just like any other race they are capable of great things if they attempt to do so, look at Herman Cain, and Alan West as examples. Now you DUmmies tell me just who is racist again.

GOBUCKS · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2011, 03:07:59 PM »

Seems to me that in a house full of queers, a little racism would be the least of the moral dilemmas.

jukin · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2011, 03:59:27 PM »

You can't make this shit up.

Mr Mannn · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:00:46 PM »

1) its a sleepover visit (sure. its just a "visit")
2) an old navy buddy who is gay (translates to your boyfriend and him were intimate)
3) a racist rant (translates to I'm getting street cred at DU)

Once the 3 way gay fest begins...all the racism will be forgotten. apart from a good spanking maybe...

I made myself sick just thinking about this. Homosexuality is a mental illness.

Ballygrl · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:05:38 PM »

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"Black people were "freed" only to be denied voting and civil rights for another century and to be terrorized by KKK and racist cops.

Denied voting rights by Democrats, and what party was the Senator from who was in the KKK?

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Segregated education was inferior for black people and only in the last 45 years or so are things really improving.

Actually because of racist Democratic Policy education isn't a priority, what's the graduation rate? and where are things improving?

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It seems clear to me why, on average, black people are poorer and have less formal education than white people.

That couldn't be because Welfare has fostered dependency in the black community? could it?

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It's rooted in a criminal racism.

Racism makes someone commit crime?

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I do wonder if you think that black people are genetically inferior to white people.

No, I do think because of racist Democratic policy they've lost their way though.

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If so, I think that's wrong. If you don't think they're genetically inferior, why are you even calling our black people specifically?"

Gay people don't have a right to their feelings?

Ballygrl · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:07:53 PM »

All those comments and it's only at +2 recs?

Ballygrl · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:14:38 PM »

Uh Oh! painting with a broad brush!

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David__77 (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-27-11 02:28 PM
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8. It seems like gay white men are first and foremost white men.

I'm gay (obviously), and I see racism all around me among white (and Latino) gay men. It's not just the superficial things like identifying anything black-seeming as "ghetto." It's really vicious.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-27-11 02:33 PM
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12. Well, that's a pretty broad brush. Gay people support Obama and Democrats at much higher rates

than straights. About half the country votes Republican, and the rates of Republican voting among whites in the south is astronomical. In comparison, gay voters support Democrats 70%-80% of the time. Furthermore, many gay people are strong supporters of progressive causes.

Yes, we see racism all around us. Gay people can be racists. To suggest that gay people are more likely to be racist than everybody else is false, imo.

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David__77 (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-27-11 02:48 PM
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18. You're right. I was speaking out of anger and retract that.

I am just amazed by that racist minority among white gay men. Their views would be even worse if they were straight in all likelihood.

Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:24:07 PM »

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-27-11 02:33 PM
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12. Well, that's a pretty broad brush. Gay people support Obama and Democrats at much higher rates

than straights. About half the country votes Republican, and the rates of Republican voting among whites in the south is astronomical. In comparison, gay voters support Democrats 70%-80% of the time. Furthermore, many gay people are strong supporters of progressive causes.

Yes, we see racism all around us. Gay people can be racists. To suggest that gay people are more likely to be racist than everybody else is false, imo.

In other words the definition of racism is not the feelings a person holds but what political beliefs they espouse.

Here is a little secret DUmmy,any real racism gays hold is most likely due to a desire for them to become the oppressed minority.

Btw,I saw nothing racist in the remarks complained about in the op,just a reflection on the factual condition that exists today.
Don`t like reality?
Your problem not mine.

sybilll · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:31:39 PM »

Maybe it's a Southern thang, but, most of my gay friends are in fact Republicans. They care more about fiscal responsibility than identity politics. Part of the reason is because of ghouls like these union thugs protesting at, and vandalizing an all black school because Walker was going to be there, and heaven forbid, it is a voucher school providing a superior education. (Take your blood pressure meds before you watch):
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/27/video-the-ugly-protest-at-wisconsins-messmer-catholic-school-over-walker-visit/

jukin · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2011, 04:32:27 PM »

GIRL FIGHT!!!!

Ballygrl · « **Reply #11 on:** August 27, 2011, 06:36:22 PM »

Quote from: sybilll on August 27, 2011, 04:31:39 PM

Maybe it's a Southern thang, but, most of my gay friends are in fact Republicans. They care more about fiscal responsibility than identity politics. Part of the reason is because of ghouls like these union thugs protesting at, and vandalizing an all black school because Walker was going to be there, and heaven forbid, it is a voucher school providing a superior education. (Take your blood pressure meds before you watch):
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/27/video-the-ugly-protest-at-wisconsins-messmer-catholic-school-over-walker-visit/

Oh my!

miskie · « **Reply #12 on:** August 27, 2011, 06:44:38 PM »

Oh dear.. Which protected group will DU side with ? Because they have to pick one.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #13 on:** August 27, 2011, 07:06:24 PM »

That post is so full of ick and stupid that I'm not even going to take the slow-pitch free shot at the Navy.

FreeBorn · « **Reply #14 on:** August 27, 2011, 07:06:59 PM »

Boo!

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #15 on:** August 27, 2011, 07:13:55 PM »

Quote from: FreeBorn on August 27, 2011, 07:06:59 PM

Boo!

Biez!

I had to take that shot.

Freeper · « **Reply #16 on:** August 27, 2011, 08:04:37 PM »

Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 27, 2011, 07:06:24 PM

That post is so full of ick and stupid that I'm not even going to take the slow-pitch free shot at the Navy.

So you won't say that gay and Navy is redundant?

Disclaimer: that comment is allowed under the 1974 inter service rivalry act.

jukin · « **Reply #17 on:** August 27, 2011, 09:01:51 PM »

This is just like a car wreck and why I can't give up the Cave.

Sometimes the total idiocy just turns me off but then you get a nugget like this.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2011, 01:41:36 PM »

Quote from: Freeper on August 27, 2011, 08:04:37 PM

So you won't say that gay and Navy is redundant?

Disclaimer: that comment is allowed under the 1974 inter service rivalry act.

No. I will not say that gay and Navy is redundant.

USA4ME · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2011, 10:24:02 AM »

The twinkie never addressed the main part of the post, which is "yet to this day African Americans feel (from my perspective) that they are still owed something from the white community." It's noticable that way too many blacks believe they are owed. I don't get it, but on the other hand when I see it I just ignore they're making themselves look like fools and react the same way I would even if they didn't hold that viewpoint. I certainly don't climb aboard the "guilt trip train" the way they seemingly want me to do.

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Author Topic: "My boyfriend's racist best friend... a dilemma." (David__77) (Read 2535 times)