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The Founder's Papers
« on: August 19, 2011, 08:13:11 PM »
Has anyone ever read these??? opinions??
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 12:57:03 AM »
You mean The Federalist Papers? 
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 07:08:27 AM »
You'll have to narrow it down some - they wrote a LOT and left most of it behind.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 07:17:05 AM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on August 19, 2011, 08:13:11 PM
Has anyone ever read these??? opinions??


Good read? 

waiting for the movie version?

Boring ending?

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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 08:54:27 AM »
A friend told me about them, and Glen beck has something to do with it
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 10:01:42 AM »
i have not read them. but i hear them referenced alot. most of the time they are used to describe the intent of whats in the declaration and contitution.

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and Glen beck has something to do with it
i dont think he wrote them :mental:
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 10:56:16 AM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on August 20, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
A friend told me about them, and Glen beck has something to do with it

Beck has a new book called "The Original Argument" that updates some of the essays into modern English, without changing the intent.  Good book, based on a project by Joshua Charles. I recommend it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 07:46:58 PM »
Ok thankyou so much......I heard it is a hard read however.
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 07:49:25 PM »
The Federalist papers are a hard read.  I'm trying now.  I might pick up Beck's book to help me get through them.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 08:00:29 PM »
I will see if I can get these from my local library and maye we can discuss. I think it is important to read what the founding fathers were saying. I realize that this was a different time in our history and the situation is different today, but still to get a gist of it and see how our current government have maybe misintrepreted the Constitution, perhaps for their own personal gain.
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 08:07:14 PM »
The hardest part is that its written in "old English".  You have to think about the meanings they were trying to convey.  At least the book I have is written that way.  But I agree, it is important to see what the founding fathers were trying to say.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 08:26:07 AM »
There are also tons of founders' writings online, for those that are interested. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 09:13:02 AM »
Quote from: md11hydmec on August 20, 2011, 07:49:25 PM
The Federalist papers are a hard read.  I'm trying now.  I might pick up Beck's book to help me get through them.

It does help. It covers 33 of the papers. Beck refers to the Federalist Papers as the user's manual for the Constitution; "a guide to understanding the Founders' core constitutional principals, the theories behind their words,the why, where and how of the foundation of America"

"They offer one of the most profound insights into the human nature of politics-

No matter the century, people are people and politicians are politicians."

Ain't that the truth.



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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 11:20:10 AM »
Exactly.  I'll definately pick up Necks book now.
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Re: The Founder's Papers
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 02:15:46 PM »
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I went to the library, Found the Federalists papers, but not the Founders Papers. I browsed and perused a few and ended up getting "We Hold These Truths" by Mortimer Adler and "The Debate on the Constitution". The latter does contain alot of the essays by our forefathers.
The subtitle is "Federalist and Antifederalist Speeches, Articles and Letters During the Struggle over Ratification Part 1". This is by editor Bernard Bailyn.
They look interesting, oh I got the John Adams part 2 DVD :-)
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