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You know, I wish they would have the balls to at least post these call outs, either here, or on a site that will allow those whom they addressed to respond.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 02:24 PM
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the big GOP lie is over. Wonder if the teaparty realizes it - a note to tea partiers:
   
The frenzied screams - to prop up the reason for their "party of no" form of governance (since they took over the House) has been "Deficit spending is the problem!" "The jobs crisis is secondary to the Deficit Spending problem!" "Cut the deficit now!" It has been a ruse. McConnell, Cantor and Boehner just picked up their ball and go home.

See, when confronted with a serious approach (if wrong-headed imo) that historically cut deficits - they didn't like that it included getting the tax dodgers at the high end of the income pool (individual and corporate) to pay part of the bill. Nope - no dice.

So there you have it tea partiers. Its never been about the deficits or deficit spending. It has been all about getting you to support them, to take a knock at the president, but above all else - to make sure the extra tax benefits given by W to the ultra wealthy - are untouched. All the pain of correcting the deficit spending - ala lowering the national debt should be yours (and ours) to carry.

Just think - they are protecting the wealth of your despised George Soros - and our despised brothers Koch. It is now clear they never really cared about the deficits. As GOP VP Cheney said nearly a decade ago: "Reagan proved that deficits don't really matter." Oh - that was said to encourage a slightly balking (didn't we already give tax cuts to the wealthy) W to push for another round of tax cuts that benefited the ultra wealthy and just left the rest of us little folks the bill.

It (the screaming chicken little act about peril of deficit spending as the root of "all things wrong in the economy") was/is a ruse.

Tea partiers - is your most important issue really about preserving the tax cuts for the richest americans?

Because that is what the GOP leadership just did. F*ck the deficits, f*ck the debt limit, all deals off because there are the end of Bush tax cuts and loopholes for the wealthiest. Indeed, the action indicates their plan for "saving the economy"... do NOTHING - as the tax cuts in place by Bush for the better part of a decade have been doing so well. They are pulling everything off the table - so apparently their plan is (this will sound familiar) "Stay The Course."

Oh and for the fun of it... is the GOP going to push the US into default? Risking potentially huge economic meltdowns and credit crunches (means even fewer opportunities for new businesses to open, and existing businesses to expand - aka fewer jobs on the horizon.)

For what it is worth, I think that the Obama negotiations sucked, too. For different reasons than you, probably. Can't say I am thrilled by his actions/negotiations and what he was willing to put on the table.

I felt he was pushing too much of the burden onto our (middle, working, and under/unemployed class) backs while asking for too little of the burden to be shared with our much wealthier citizens who have seen huge gains in their incomes over the last decade, while ours have been shrinking.

But at least he kept going back to the table to try to craft a solution - as if there really is a crisis facing us (and if we default on our debt - it will quickly make economic matters much dicier.)

Your guys - they are still laughing on the way back to the bank. It was never about deficits. It was all about protecting the growing economic wealth disparities in this country.

After the negotiations I am not sure how well my back is covered, but I do believe some are still working to salvage some of what keeps us safe (ss, medicare).

Just wondering for your side - do you think these guys (McConnell, Boehnor, Canter, et al) *really* have your back?
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Just wondering for your side - do you think these guys (McConnell, Boehnor, Canter, et al) *really* have your back?

No I don't, in fact I don't count on any politician anywhere to have my back. The people who have my back are my family and some friends. I do count on the politicians that I vote for, to follow the constitution, run the govt in a way where our freedoms are protected and to try to stop the madness that our govt has become. It's not the govt's job to have my back, your back, or anyone's back. The govt is there to keep our country together and fulfill the Constitutional duties that are required, things like national defense.

This whole notion that govt should be our providers is insane. In fact DUmmies what is going on now is a prefect illustration of why we conservatives do not want govt in control of our destinies.  You can argue that an employer may cut our wages, insurance may reduce what they pay, etc, however at least if that happens we have the option of finding a better deal somewhere else. Now when the govt is your sugar daddy, he's the only game in town, and you have to sit there and take what he decides that you can have.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 02:33 PM
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and you just *might* be able to get their attention.

Well done.

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.....they didn't like that it included getting the tax dodgers.....

But  it didn't.  It didn't include the tax-dodging primitives.

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As GOP VP Cheney said nearly a decade ago.....that deficits don't really matter.

Odd, that clear up until January 20, 1981, it was the Democrats who constantly said that.

It's in the history books.

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.....do NOTHING

Sometimes that's a damned good idea, doing nothing, and letting a situation naturally resolve on its own.

It worked great for Britain and France during the Great Depression.

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.....do you think these guys (McConnell, Boehnor, Canter, et al) *really* have your back?

Yes, I do.  I know the Big Zero and the Dems don't have my back; I've always known that.
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