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Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« on: July 12, 2011, 08:17:16 AM »
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Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacations,
   
Guess Who's Gonna Suffer"

I know it's Hannity...BUT Holy Batshit Crazy Man!?

The problem is that this is what the Tea-baggers have been taught. There it is for you all in one glorious simple sentence. All the "Ayn Randian, Trickle-Downdian, Supply-sided" idiocy of today's America broken down into plain language.

What a bunch of "week-willed, yellow-bellied, pissants" we've become. "Oh Please Master, just a few crumbs is all I's askin' for"

Americans used to take pride in their work and their spirit, and that labor and spirit was admired and passed from generation to generation.

Now, we grovel like slaves, and are careful not to ask "too much" from our masters. We're thankful "just to have a job", and maybe if we work hard enough, and take less money, the master will allow us to collectively bargain for warm gruel instead of cold.

What Hannity and his ilk are selling is bad enough, but what really makes me sick to the pit of my stomach, is that our neighbors and fellow Americans actually buy it.

I weep for my once great country.

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What did he say that is not accurate?
When the evil rich spend money on yachts, etc do those yachts not come from a company that employees people?
If no one is buying yachts do the yacht companies not go out of business?

If theses sooper geniuses get their way and we tax the rich into poverty, they will be only ones surprised by the "unexpected" jump in unemployment.   :mental:

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1. think of all the people Tiffany's employs
   
thanks Newt!

The nerve of Newt to spend his own money there, instead of handing out fivers to every DUmmy.  :whatever:
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 08:20:12 AM »
Sean is right.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 08:21:09 AM »
Another reason the primitives would be great recruits for the Flat Earth Society, or an organization denying the existence of gravity, or something.

Where is it "documented" that trickle-down economics doesn't work?
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 08:23:44 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 12, 2011, 08:21:09 AM
Another reason the primitives would be great recruits for the Flat Earth Society, or an organization denying the existence of gravity, or something.

Where is it "documented" that trickle-down economics doesn't work?


It's documented at DU. All it takes is one sooper genius to post that, and it becomes fact.

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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 08:27:49 AM »
This is the 1930s repeating because the idiot that is in the WH is pursuing the same policies as FDR did, only on hyper-drive. In the thirties the rich went on a capital strike. The rich and any sane investor is doing the exact same thing now. In the 30s the rich got along just fine. They had the hard money and just shut down the factories and it hurt the lower and middle classes.

When Billy Jeff Clinton put that special yacht tax to make the rich pay their fair share the American yacht industry died. Did that affect the rich? None but the yacht companies owners and investors. The rich made South Korea and Taiwan the new countries for yacht builders and bought them there. The tax didn't bring in anymore revenue (IIRC it was actually lowered) and put many well paid American workers out of a job.

History shows us that taxing something lowers it use and subsidizing something increases it use. However, liberals belieeeeeevvvvveeee that taxing gasoline will curb it's use but taxing investing will increase investment. I fully expect that in the next twenty years liberalism will be clinically classified as a mental disease.

It is sad to see that the president is using the same class warfare that is so popular in one of the Internet's most batshit crazy sites.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
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11. What if they pay their employees more?
   
That'll alleviate a lot more suffering that their yachts, planes, and vacations.

What about the employees that will be out of a job, because no one is buying yachts, buying planes, or taking vacations?

And, how do you know that those evil rich people don't pay their employees well, to begin with?
I've heard that the evil Koch brothers pay their employees fairly well.

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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 09:49:02 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 12, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
What about the employees that will be out of a job, because no one is buying yachts, buying planes, or taking vacations?And, how do you know that those evil rich people don't pay their employees well, to begin with?
I've heard that the evil Koch brothers pay their employees fairly well.




The DUmmies should take a good look at the economic down turn that happened in the Hawaiian islands. Those horrible "rich" people diden't take vacations and the ecomomy went into the toilet. Many of the people working the resturants and entertainment industries were working 2-3 jobs just to get by. I saw this first hand (2009) For all I know, it's still in the toilet.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 10:02:01 AM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on July 12, 2011, 08:20:12 AM
Sean is right.

Yes, and what he's talking about is exactly what happened with Clinton's luxury tax on large boats in the 90s.  The affected "Rich" just stopped buying them, and it caused severe hardship in the communities where these craft were built and  outfitted.  It's not just a hypothetical situation, we have actually seen it play out exactly that way in living memory.   
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 10:07:21 AM »
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Yes, and what he's talking about is exactly what happened with Clinton's luxury tax on large boats in the 90s.  The affected "Rich" just stopped buying them, and it caused severe hardship in the communities where these craft were built and  outfitted.  It's not just a hypothetical situation, we have actually seen it play out exactly that way in living memory.   

That was a good example of Vast Teddy's bare-faced hypocrisy.

During the first Bush administration, Vast Teddy was always shooting off his mouth for that yacht tax, and of course got it.

Very early on into the Clinton administration, Vast Teddy quietly got it repealed, for the reason you stated.

I really despised the blubbery whale, and this is one of the reasons; his blatant hypocrisy.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 10:13:40 AM »
Why can't the DUmmies see that when cash is "out there," rather than confiscated by the government, everybody wins? It seems pretty elementary to anyone with a whit of common sense....

Oh wait...I just answered my own question.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 10:16:43 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 12, 2011, 08:21:09 AM
Another reason the primitives would be great recruits for the Flat Earth Society, or an organization denying the existence of gravity, or something.

Where is it "documented" that trickle-down economics doesn't work?


I'm sure that they're gathering all of the studies, all of the evidence, all of the anecdotal stories, and they'll get all of that information to you...










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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 10:44:59 AM »
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I weep for my once great country.
I've been reading the DUmp since Rush first mentioned them in, I think, 2002.
In those nine years, they have wept non-stop about one thing or another.

Even during the height of the Bush Prosperity, they wept.
They could have shared in that prosperity, but instead they wept.

Had they been working instead of weeping, they would be in much better shape to survive the
temporary hardships the Kenyan has brought us.

I'm sure that long after we're rid of the jug-eared muslim and the First Wookie, and normal people
have returned to prosperity and growth, they'll still be weeping.
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 11:48:37 AM »
Whats funny is that all of them that are employed (in the dreaded private sector) all have customers that fuel the business.  You live and breath taking care of your customers.  If your costs go up and all of a sudden you have to pass those costs on, how pleasent is it to inform your customer of a price increase.  What do you do to try and keep their business.  

Yet, in the mind of these simpletons, it is no problem tacking on thousands of dollars in costs to the evil rich.  There is no thought that maybe the Koch brother will put off buying a new coporate jet for a year, how does that affect a production line.  If the production line shuts down, it is more than 10 people that are looking for work, it is hundreds down the supply chain.  

Is economics not offered in schools that have woman's studies degrees?

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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 12:02:10 PM »
Quote from: Doc Savage on July 12, 2011, 11:48:37 AM
Is economics not offered in schools that have woman's studies degrees?

It's economics Jim, but not economics as we know it.

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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 12:12:13 PM »
I'm taking a Sociology class right now, and I'm starting to see the basis of some of the DUmmies ideas.  For example, the section on social classes talks about how in lower classes children learn that money is spent right away, so they don't learn to save for bigger items.  This of course removes the responsibility of learning to be financially responsible from those in the lower classes  :thatsright:

I can see how somebody fed a steady diet of sociology gobbledy gook would end up with a skewed vision of how the world works. 
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
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1. think of all the people Tiffany's employs
   
thanks Newt!

Uh, doesn't Tiffany's have to buy merchandise for their store? And for a store like Tiffany's wouldn't that include merchandise from artisans who can now ply their trade freely without fear of getting sick, thanks to 0bamacare? Shouldn't we support stores like Tiffany's to prevent starving artists?

And I'm sure every single person who goes into Tiffany's goes straight home, never stopping to shop at other stores or have lunch.

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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 12:43:34 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on July 12, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
Uh, doesn't Tiffany's have to buy merchandise for their store? And for a store like Tiffany's wouldn't that include merchandise from artisans who can now ply their trade freely without fear of getting sick, thanks to 0bamacare? Shouldn't we support stores like Tiffany's to prevent starving artists?

And I'm sure every single person who goes into Tiffany's goes straight home, never stopping to shop at other stores or have lunch.

Cindie

Let's go ahead and expand the list of people who are employed, at least in part, by Tiffany's

1.  Salespeople (obviously)
2. Security Guards
3. Janitorial and cleaning staff
4. Artisans
5. Appraisers
6. The people who actually mine precious metals and stones overseas
7. People who transport and delivery both the raw materials and the finished products.
8.  The people who make the classic Tiffany boxes.
9.  Web manager and designer
10. Photographers (photos for promotions and the website)

etc., etc, etc.  High end retail is not a self contained microcosm.  All of the employees of Tiffany's take their pay checks and buy items elsewhere, which keeps the money circulating. 
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Re: Hannity: "If Rich People Don't Buy Yachts" Or "Planes" Or "Go On Expensive Vacat
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 12:48:57 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on July 12, 2011, 12:43:34 PM
Let's go ahead and expand the list of people who are employed, at least in part, by Tiffany's

1.  Salespeople (obviously)
2. Security Guards
3. Janitorial and cleaning staff
4. Artisans
5. Appraisers
6. The people who actually mine precious metals and stones overseas
7. People who transport and delivery both the raw materials and the finished products.
8.  The people who make the classic Tiffany boxes.
9.  Web manager and designer
10. Photographers (photos for promotions and the website)

etc., etc, etc.  High end retail is not a self contained microcosm.  All of the employees of Tiffany's take their pay checks and buy items elsewhere, which keeps the money circulating. 

Yeah but are those union jobs with living wage pay, pensions, retirement, and health care?
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