Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.

[Freeper]

My guess the reason is, they have read DU, with all the posts about picking up the pitch forks.

blindpig (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:06 PM
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Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.
   


Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.

By Robert Frank

Last year, I was at a billionaire’s home in California and I asked him to describe his biggest worry. He pointed to a 19th century painting on the wall, which depicted a female beggar receiving alms from a wealthy gentleman and giving her patron a flower in return.

“That’s what I worry about,” he said. “But instead of flowers, she’s got guns. Violence in the streets, aimed at the wealthy. That’s what I worry about.”

It turns out he wasn’t alone. A new survey from Insite Security and IBOPE Zogby International of those with liquid assets of $1 million or more found that 94% of respondents are concerned about the global unrest around the world today.

Fully 90% of respondents have a negative view of the current global economic climate and 41% say they have little or no faith that the U.S. will be able to right itself in this fiscal climate.

more....The comments are very enlightening.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/07/06/why-the-rich-fea...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1442514

geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:10 PM
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1. They should be worried.
   
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:16 PM
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7. yep

Right off the bat 2 admissions of the left's desire for violence.

coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jul-09-11 11:22 AM
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86. Oh, please. The vast majority of the wealthy in this country
   
inherited their wealth. That's right, they didn't lift a finger to create anything, much less think about the future while creating it. They simply inherited it from their forbears.

Hell a vast majority of DUmmies in this country collect some form of govt benefits, they don't lift a finger to created anything, much less think about the future. They simply inherited from the taxpayer.

socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 03:25 PM
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41. Interesting thought from my brother about
   
crime in the low-income urban areas. He's gone so far as to encourage people who are going to commit a crime ANYWAY, to take it to the richer suburbs and other wealthy areas. Now by encourage, I just mean suggest it in general terms. As a theory. There would be more wealth to loot there anyway.

All in all though, I'm not much of an anarchist. The personal and property crimes, if not in pursuit of the cause, is not much progress and it'll be more of a by product than a tactic or cause.

Real standup guy your brother is. 

theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:15 PM
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3. Well, why don't they pay their fair share, hire the jobless, and give alms out of their
   
superfluity? They might be scared but they don't have to continue to be greedy and stupid.

What exactly is their fair share anyway? As it stands now they pay the most in taxes of anyone. You can only raise taxes so many times, at some  point they will run out of money.

fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:15 PM
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4. good... they should be!
   
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Another threat of violence.

socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 03:02 PM
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29. Wow, so MANY posts to comment on...........
   
I'll start here. I hope you don't mind ken. You're right it's not really the fear of violence against their persons that they fear, it IS the fear that their business(es) will lose money. That's why the BEST way to strike out at them is NOT personal violence (as satisfying as that may be), but the witholding of labor, i.e., strikes. Targeted, wildcat, and general. An indefinite general strike would probably bring them to their knees in a month at most. ESPECIALLY if we couple it with occupation of factories, stores, and other of their "properties". Along with massive and impolite street demonstrations and occupation of government offices.

And today we have another weapon too in that, in our consumer driven economy, there's a LOT of debt, secured and unsecured, out there. Couple all the above with a debt repayment "strike" and they'd be begging for mercy in a month or so. And the beauty of the debt repayment "strike" is that even people who couldn't participate in the actions could do this.

There are opportunities for the working class to fight back and WIN, but we've got to find the unity and will to take the required actions. And mostly, TO USE THE CORRECT TACTICS. Untargeted violence and terror, no matter how personally satisfying, will NOT get the job done of changing the system.

The problem with your general strike idea is, us conservatives will still go to work, we have mouths to feed and bills to pay. Last I checked more people call themselves conservative than do liberal. Besides half you junkies at DUmmyland don't work anyway because of that darn drug test.

librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 04:07 PM
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47. I like all those tactics. Call me when you need me to show up
   
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 04:08 PM by librechik

She may even go out and apply for a job so she can strike. 

kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 12:56 PM
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16. This is what they should be REALLY afraid of:
   
"You know, it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people." -- Billy Ray Valentine

So come on Anonymous, get cracking! Hack their offshore accounts and redistribute that wealth }(
   

Great idea then when they give all that money to you, you will be the evil rich person dodging pitch forks. Or even better we can confiscate it all from you ten minutes after you get it.

blindpig (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 02:51 PM
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26. That's fine
   

Let's see how long they last without their banks, brokerage houses, factories and other means of production. Shorn of that power they are flies to be swatted if they get too annoying.

By the time this pustule pops a lot in the 'burbs gonna be running around with torches and pitchforks too.

We all need to take stock in the pitchfork industry, then irionically the DUmmies will make us rich.
On second thought none of them idiots can get off the computer long enough to go and buy a pitchfork, much less riot.

blindpig (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 02:58 PM
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28. Naw
   

Confiscate their portfolios without compensation, that'll draw their fangs.

Funny thing about theft, is it pisses people off.

nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 03:38 PM
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45. Sadly, that's a very big if
   
Your average teabagger is *not* wealthy, and couldn't see the obvious truth that he or she has more in common with the mythical "welfare queen in her Cadillac" than with Ann Coulter or Rick Perry if it came up and punched them in the face.

No we don't have anything in common with welfare queens, we go to work each day and want to preserve the money we earn from being unfairly garnished by the govt. You on the other hand want to sit around all day and have your hands filled with govt goodies funded by those of us who go to work each day. There is no comparison, other than night vs day.

nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:15 PM
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62. Kind of hard to strike when you don't have a job
   
But of course I support the strikers, even if I have my doubts about the effectiveness of striking as a tactic, though it's better than doing nothing.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:42 PM
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64. Once again I can relate as I'm unemployed also
   
I will have to disagree with you about striking though. If it's done right, it's the most effective weapon the working class has. Good luck in the job search.

Don't worry you can send healing white light, pictures of your hands, and be there in spirit.

The world has gone crazy when a group of people thinks that just for the reason that their mommy decided not to abort them, they are owed a living from people who took the time to work and build a life for themselves. The notion that we are greedy if we want to bring home the money we go out and earn and take care of ourselves is just plain insanity.

[Carl]

Why is it that they never speak of what they will contribute to society in return for this shower of riches they demand be given to them?

[Freeper]

Why is it that they never speak of what they will contribute to society in return for this shower of riches they demand be given to them?

They want shared sacrifice. Meaning they want the rich to sacrifice and they want to share what is taken from them.

[BlueStateSaint]

Freeper hits it dead on.  Thing is, as many here will attest, a lot of us in the 'burbs have the means to keep scumsuckers like the DUmb****s from taking our stuff.  Think "lead."

[Skul]

socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 03:02 PM
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29. Wow, so MANY posts to comment on...........
>blah<
>blah<
 And today we have another weapon too in that, in our consumer driven economy, there's a LOT of debt, secured and unsecured, out there. Couple all the above with a debt repayment "strike" and they'd be begging for mercy in a month or so. And the beauty of the debt repayment "strike" is that even people who couldn't participate in the actions could do this.

Oh, ya, I'm sure that's a real good idea.
Refuse to repay a debt you willingly entered into.
Hello, eviction notice.
Hello, repo man.
We'd be seeing DUmmies squealing like little stuck pigs in a month or so.
The thread titles at the DUmp would be quite the thing to see.

[JohnnyReb]

Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.... because good ammo cost real money and the street clean up afterwards is a beotch.

[BlueStateSaint]

Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.... because good ammo cost real money and the street clean up afterwards is a beotch.

I'm thinking of buying some Herter's in .308 for the cost reason.  500 rounds to start.

[Rebel]

I'm thinking of buying some Herter's in .308 for the cost reason.  500 rounds to start.

Getcha a Drag or a PSL. You can get 440 rounds of 7.62 x 54R for less than 80 bucks.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A76254R&name=Russian+7.62x54R+147grn+FMJ+440rd+Can&groupid=186

Romanian PSL

Russian Dragunov

[BlueStateSaint]

Getcha a Drag or a PSL. You can get 440 rounds of 7.62 x 54R for less than 80 bucks.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A76254R&name=Russian+7.62x54R+147grn+FMJ+440rd+Can&groupid=186

Romanian PSL

Russian Dragunov

Hell, Reb, if I really wanted a 7.62x54R, I'd get a Moisin.  I've got a Model Seven in .308 already, so that's why I mentioned the .308.

[Rebel]

Hell, Reb, if I really wanted a 7.62x54R, I'd get a Moisin.  I've got a Model Seven in .308 already, so that's why I mentioned the .308.

My dad had a Winchester Model 70 Bull Barrel that I wanted bad. ...and damned if he didn't sell it before letting me know. The Mosin is a great weapon, actually, it was the weapon used by the world's deadliest sniper, but the Drag and the PSL are semi-auto and look badass.  

...not to mention 7.62 ammo is a helluva lot cheaper.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Just what we need, DUmbassInTN.  More ****ing deadbeats who refuse to pay their bills.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Facebooked.

[Ballygrl]

Those in the Democratic Party who are engaging in class warfare should be arrested for incitement.

[dandi]

Welcome to the world of Not Thinking Things Through.

Have you ever heard a DUmmy lay out a plan of what to do after Teh Richâ„¢ are guillotined, drawn and quartered, barbequed, whatever? After the fabled "gated communities" have been ransacked? After their corporate offices have been occupied and the factories shut down?

They seem to believe every mansion, and for that matter every company, has a Money Room where the mob could jut run in and shovel up as much as they could carry, if only they could just get past the sleepy old Wackenhut guard up front. Or do they think the account managers at Credit Suisse or some Cayman bank is going to wire their money to "the disheveled, pot-smelling guy in the tie-dyed shirt" demanding it at the teller window?

And what of things like food, utilities, transportation, the things needed to survive in a country of 300,000,000? It is said that most grocery stores have at best 3-4 days worth of full stock with which to line the shelves. Are factories going to continue to produce, trucks and trains going to continue to run, power plants going to continue to generate, without someone there to sign the checks and authorize the expenditures for payrolls, raw materials, repairs, etc.?

Who is going to take care of all that, DUmbasses? You? You can't even hold down a job at ****ing McDonalds and you're going to run a system that stands between an orderly society and mass starvation? We conservatives may know how to farm, hunt, fish, take care of our own sick and infirm and live off the land for a while, but what are you and your entitlement-minded brethren going to do in your brave new world?

The answer, of course, is nothing but die a slow and protracted death while trying to learn to run a conveyor belt and get people to work without the promise of a paycheck. Like other good Socialists, you'd kill hundreds of thousands if not millions in your quest for Utopia. Do everyone a favor and keep your volent masturbatory fantasies to yourself. That or just go ahead and off yourselves to save someone else the trouble, because you and your ilk aren't taking over anything. 

[Rebel]

socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-08-11 03:25 PM
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41. Interesting thought from my brother about crime in the low-income urban areas. He's gone so far as to encourage people who are going to commit a crime ANYWAY, to take it to the richer suburbs and other wealthy areas. Now by encourage, I just mean suggest it in general terms. As a theory. There would be more wealth to loot there anyway.

All in all though, I'm not much of an anarchist. The personal and property crimes, if not in pursuit of the cause, is not much progress and it'll be more of a by product than a tactic or cause.

Is your brother in Tn? If so, please try this. Matter of fact, I would encourage all of you idiots to try it in the southern and midwestern states. Should be interesting. Come to my neighborhood threatening violence and crime, I answer back. ...and no, not with mere threats.

[ReardenSteel]

[LC EFA]

Why the Rich Fear Violence in the Streets.

Has it occurred to you that it might be because it's our stuff that you dirty wannabe-serfs are going to trash. Stuff that we own by virtue of having paid for it.

If I were to come down by that grubby excrement strewn ally behind the VD clinic that you call home and torch your fridge box and pile of filthy rags, you'd be pretty pissed about it, right ?
 

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Has it occurred to you that it might be because it's our stuff that you dirty wannabe-serfs are going to trash. Stuff that we own by virtue of having paid for it.

If I were to come down by that grubby excrement strewn ally behind the VD clinic that you call home and torch your fridge box and pile of filthy rags, you'd be pretty pissed about it, right ?
 

  hi 5.

[I_B_Perky]

socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-08-11 03:25 PM
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41. Interesting thought from my brother about crime in the low-income urban areas. He's gone so far as to encourage people who are going to commit a crime ANYWAY, to take it to the richer suburbs and other wealthy areas. Now by encourage, I just mean suggest it in general terms. As a theory. There would be more wealth to loot there anyway.

All in all though, I'm not much of an anarchist. The personal and property crimes, if not in pursuit of the cause, is not much progress and it'll be more of a by product than a tactic or cause.

Come to our neighborhoods in West by God Virginia punk and see how fast ya get dead. Most everyone here is armed and know how to use their weapons. The drug dealer punks from NYC and Detroit figured that out real quick.... those that lived got sent up to Mt Olive for the rest of their miserable lives. Those that didn't got sent back in a coffin.  Now they stick to the drug dealing areas in Charleston where decent folk don't go and shoot each other.

[DumbAss Tanker]

There's a bit of rather sneaky bootstrapping to an unwarranted conclusion from the WSJ excerpt.  While the rich are no doubt concerned about unrest, the article does a surprisingly poor job of distinguishing the anecdote (Apparently, but not absolutely, concerning an individual's local personal safety concerns) from the survey results (Which seem to be more about global unrest, a broader economic threat but not so much a personal and domestic one).

The primitives of course seize on it as an alert to the phantasmic revolt of the American proletariat, which they all so vicariously support. 

[JohnnyReb]

There's a bit of rather sneaky bootstrapping to an unwarranted conclusion from the WSJ excerpt.  While the rich are no doubt concerned about unrest, the article does a surprisingly poor job of distinguishing the anecdote (Apparently, but not absolutely, concerning an individual's local personal safety concerns) from the survey results (Which seem to be more about global unrest, a broader economic threat but not so much a personal and domestic one).

The primitives of course seize on it as an alert to the phantasmic revolt of the American proletariat, which they all so vicariously support. 

Yep, as long as they don't have to leave their basement or spend any of their personal ill gotten gains.

[Delmar]

There's reason to fear violence on the streets and not just for the rich.  On July 3rd in Milwaukee a couple dozen hoodlums went on a rampaging crime spree, raided a convenience store en masse brazenly stealing beer, pop, candy, and other snacks.  From there they went to a park and started beating people that were part of a crowd that was leaving a fireworks display.  Beating, kicking, throwing some of the stolen beer bottles.  The cops arrived and while they did make sure that the injured were helped, they didn't take any statements.  It's kind of a mystery why the police chief is trying to hush it up--maybe because of racial reasons or worries about the effect on tourism, whatever.  But what is this world coming to?
BTW, the new concealed carry law won't go into effect until this Fall(October, maybe?)maybe the hoods are thinking that their wilding days are coming to an end and are just getting in their last licks.
p.s.  The Milwaukee Chief of Police, Ed Flynn is a tool.  He spoke out against the concealed carry law while it was being debated, held a press conference at the site of a criminal shooting and claiming that this kind of thing was going to increase if the law was passed.  Never mind that murder is still going to be illegal after the law goes into effect, ditto for felons carrying concealed weapons.    

[DumbAss Tanker]

Delmar, those are thugs doing what they're doing because they are sure they can get away with it, not starving impoverished masses rising up to overthrow the plutocrats.