Does anybody here think anything positive could happen in a second Obama term?

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 04:50 PM
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Does anybody here think anything positive could happen in a second Obama term?
   
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 04:53 PM by Ken Burch
After all, if he lets SS and Medicare be raided, that is pretty much everything that matters. It's not like anything of the New Deal would still be left, and nothing progressive could ever be done by an administration that lets the entire New Deal die.

An administration is only progressive if it always pushes for social equality, and social equality only comes from economic justice. It can't come just from "rights".

And really, is what Steve Earle once called "four more years of things not getting worse" really worth a damn?

Everyone here does get it that he was never on our side now, right?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1445242

God help us all, if he gets a second term.

fredamae (418 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:04 PM
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20. Yes, but only if We
   
deliver him a super majority in both houses.

Stop and think about what the republicans are Saying on the floor, what they say to media, who the media supports, look at the fact that we are Not gaining Enough jobs, thats very true, but we are Not bleeding out 700,000 jobs Plus every month as we did when bush left office---Look at the more than 500 filibusters since the Dems took control in 2006--look at the bills they tried to pass to Help us---and who blocked them and why---Look at the republican govs and what they are doing, the power grabs etc..That is Your future if the pubs Win in 2012---and it will be Worse than what WI, NJ, FL are dealing with Now.

Umm he had a sooper majority in 2009 and 2010. And all he got you goons was that stupid healthcare bill, that none of you are smart enough to realize that it is the first step for that single payer free healthcare you want.

jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:04 PM
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21. Ask the unemployed who got 13 more months of benefits.
   
Or the rest of us with income under 250k who kept our tax cuts.

Giving the rich those tax cuts for 2 more years sucked, the President said it sucked. But it got relief for the ones who count.....we the little people.

You may choose to write us off but the President didn't. Those 'few tiny rights' were food on the table.

Purity is nice with butter spread on thick, but first you have to be able to afford the bread.

You don't want your taxes raised, but you want other people to have theirs raised. Know what that makes you? That's right a hypocrite.

Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:06 PM
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23. No.
   
But I get it that a lot of people don't understand the FACTS! Obama never had the 60 votes for the stimulus in the first place. He had 58 Democrats until June 2009 because Kennedy had been out since the Inauguration and Al Franken was locked in a recount battle. The Republicans put up a solid front and he had to deal hard to get a couple of Republican votes -- and the price was turning infrastructure money into tax cuts. It's the fault of Republicans that the stimulus wasn't bigger.

As far as the Bush tax cuts go -- he had to deal to keep unemployment insurance extended. He couldn't do that by fiat.

And he did get Bin Laden didn't he?

If the Republicans had won in 2008, don't kid yourself that things wouldn't be much, much worse. It's called Morons vs. Intelligent People, and the Morons are willing to sacrifice everything because .... they're morons.

Yeah, but getting Bin Laden won't help him come election time, just ask Poppy Bush how post war approval ratings can wither in the blink of an eye.

cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:23 PM
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39. Nope.
   
I won't vote for him. Period.

Enjoy your stay at DU. The rules say you MUST support the democrat candidates.

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fredamae (418 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jul-08-11 05:04 PM
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20. Yes, but only if We
   
deliver him a super majority in both houses.

Stop and think about what the republicans are Saying on the floor, what they say to media, who the media supports, look at the fact that we are Not gaining Enough jobs, thats very true, but we are Not bleeding out 700,000 jobs Plus every month as we did when bush left office---

The Dims controlled Congress during Bush's last 2 years, dumbass.

[BattleHymn]

And he did get Bin Laden didn't he?

He helped get Bin Laden in the same way that a blister appears on your hand after all the hard work is done. 

[Freeper]

He helped get Bin Laden in the same way that a blister appears on your hand after all the hard work is done. 

Good point.

[Duke Nukum]

Okay, what exactly is "social equality" and how does it differ from "equality?"

And what the heck is "economic justice?" Whatever happened to "social justice?" And again, how do those kinds of justice differ from "justice?"

You are just babbling, stringing random words together, DUmmie Ken Burch, hoping to sound intelligent. But you do not. You sound like you are babbling. Or doing that inane magnet poetry.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

...we are Not bleeding out 700,000 jobs Plus every month as we did when bush left office...

All bleeding eventually stops on its own...especially if left untreated.

[Rebel]

All bleeding eventually stops on its own...especially if left untreated.

"Left untreated". That kinda has two meanings. 

[USA4ME]

Ken Burch

An administration is only progressive if it always pushes for social equality, and social equality only comes from economic justice. It can't come just from "rights".

But the further you push for your brand of "social equality" and "economic justice," the further you get from freedom.  From the beginning of time, people are willing to fight and die for freedom.  Only a fool would be willing to fight and possibly die to be a slave to "social equality" and "economic justice."  Give me freedom and I will band with other lovers of freedom to defend equality and justice.  I will not fight and take a chance of dying so that we can all be mediocre together.

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