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Offline compaqxp

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This is why you wear helmets
« on: July 03, 2011, 02:22:00 PM »
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LAFAYETTE, N.Y. -- Police say a motorcyclist believed to be participating in a helmet protest ride died from head injuries after he crashed his bike on Route 11 in the Town of Onondaga. It happened around 1:30 pm Saturday.

State troopers say Philip Contos, 55, of Parish was traveling south with a large group of motorcycles when he hit his brakes, began fishtailing and lost control. Contos was ejected over the handlebars. He was pronounced dead at Upstate University Hospital.

Police say through their investigation, they believe Contos would have survived had he been wearing a helmet. State law requires all motorcyclists to wear helmets, and police are reminding everyone to be extra cautious out on the roadways this holiday weekend.

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A little common sense goes a long way..
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 03:08:18 PM »
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A little common sense goes a long way..

Personally I think it's stupid to ride without a helmet, and I see it a lot here in FL where it's not mandatory.
However, I'm not sure that it should be up to the govt to decide for riders what they have to do.

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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 03:13:42 PM »
If we had some video he could be a darwin contender.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 03:15:45 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 03, 2011, 03:08:18 PM
Personally I think it's stupid to ride without a helmet, and I see it a lot here in FL where it's not mandatory.
However, I'm not sure that it should be up to the govt to decide for riders what they have to do.



Its also optional in CT and I get a kick out of watching the guys blast down the highway with their helmet strapped to the back of the bike.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 03:48:09 PM »
If you want to risk your life it's up to you.
Laws are BS cause where will it end? You can't go sky diving, rock climbing, scuba diving, bungee jumping or a plethora of others thing where you might get hurt? Oh yeah, we are watching what you eat too!!!
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 03:52:07 PM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on July 03, 2011, 03:48:09 PM
If you want to risk your life it's up to you.
Laws are BS cause where will it end? You can't go sky diving, rock climbing, scuba diving, bungee jumping or a plethora of others thing where you might get hurt? Oh yeah, we are watching what you eat too!!!

Agree completely.   :cheersmate:

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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2011, 04:06:54 PM »
Quote from: catsmtrods on July 03, 2011, 03:48:09 PM
If you want to risk your life it's up to you.
Laws are BS cause where will it end? You can't go sky diving, rock climbing, scuba diving, bungee jumping or a plethora of others thing where you might get hurt? Oh yeah, we are watching what you eat too!!!

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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 05:26:15 PM »
Are the people that push for mandatory "safety" laws like helmet and seat belts, by any chance, the same ones that back assisted suicide??   :-)
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 05:36:01 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on July 03, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
Are the people that push for mandatory "safety" laws like helmet and seat belts, by any chance, the same ones that back assisted suicide??   :-)

Sounds about right.

I think insurance companies SHOULD be able to charge extra for those people who wish to not wear helmets, seatbelts, skydive, smoke, weigh too much (which includes me), etc. BUT I don't think the government should be able to dictate how we chose to live our lives.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 05:37:45 PM »
Getting launched over your handlebars is what's known as a "high side". This is, of course, as opposed to a "low side" which is when you go down on the south side of your handlebars. If you gotta go down, a low side is preferable. You tend to get less hurt that way.

What you're going to find is Contos' friends are saddened at his passing, but joyous in that he died doing what he loved -- motorcycling. I don't quite understand that logic myself, because you can enjoy motorcycling while protecting yourself to at least some level (helmet, gloves, boots, protective clothing/leathers). But these guys and gals who think that way enjoy bugs in the teeth and the feeling of the wind flowing through the curly locks. Whatever.

For one, I never ride on the street without a helmet. EVER. And I look dimly on those who don't wear a helmet and at least some protective clothing. I especially look at those who don't have any kind of health care insurance yet go out and ride that way. These are the first idiots who wind up as a grease stain on the roadway yet the health care practitioners who are obligated to help everybody, regardless of level of stupidity, have to be paid by the rest of us through our taxes. In other words, the very idiots who practice that type of motorcycling are unprepared to accept the consequences of their decisions.

That's the thing that frosts my cake. Go out and ride without protecting yourself -- I have no problem with that. If you wind up as a grease stain, that could very well be Darwin at work.

But don't expect the taxpayers to bail you out of your stupid-assed decision.

And don't get me started about the government mandating the wear of helmets, except for passengers under 18. The nanny state rears its head again.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 05:41:24 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 03, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
Getting launched over your handlebars is what's known as a "high side". This is, of course, as opposed to a "low side" which is when you go down on the south side of your handlebars. If you gotta go down, a low side is preferable. You tend to get less hurt that way.

What you're going to find is Contos' friends are saddened at his passing, but joyous in that he died doing what he loved -- motorcycling. I don't quite understand that logic myself, because you can enjoy motorcycling while protecting yourself to at least some level (helmet, gloves, boots, protective clothing/leathers). But these guys and gals who think that way enjoy bugs in the teeth and the feeling of the wind flowing through the curly locks. Whatever.

For one, I never ride on the street without a helmet. EVER. And I look dimly on those who don't wear a helmet and at least some protective clothing. I especially look at those who don't have any kind of health care insurance yet go out and ride that way. These are the first idiots who wind up as a grease stain on the roadway yet the health care practitioners who are obligated to help everybody, regardless of level of stupidity, have to be paid by the rest of us through our taxes. In other words, the very idiots who practice that type of motorcycling are unprepared to accept the consequences of their decisions.

That's the thing that frosts my cake. Go out and ride without protecting yourself -- I have no problem with that. If you wind up as a grease stain, that could very well be Darwin at work.

But don't expect the taxpayers to bail you out of your stupid-assed decision.

And don't get me started about the government mandating the wear of helmets, except for passengers under 18. The nanny state rears its head again.

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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 05:59:55 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 03, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
Getting launched over your handlebars is what's known as a "high side". This is, of course, as opposed to a "low side" which is when you go down on the south side of your handlebars. If you gotta go down, a low side is preferable. You tend to get less hurt that way.

What you're going to find is Contos' friends are saddened at his passing, but joyous in that he died doing what he loved -- motorcycling. I don't quite understand that logic myself, because you can enjoy motorcycling while protecting yourself to at least some level (helmet, gloves, boots, protective clothing/leathers). But these guys and gals who think that way enjoy bugs in the teeth and the feeling of the wind flowing through the curly locks. Whatever.

For one, I never ride on the street without a helmet. EVER. And I look dimly on those who don't wear a helmet and at least some protective clothing. I especially look at those who don't have any kind of health care insurance yet go out and ride that way. These are the first idiots who wind up as a grease stain on the roadway yet the health care practitioners who are obligated to help everybody, regardless of level of stupidity, have to be paid by the rest of us through our taxes. In other words, the very idiots who practice that type of motorcycling are unprepared to accept the consequences of their decisions.

That's the thing that frosts my cake. Go out and ride without protecting yourself -- I have no problem with that. If you wind up as a grease stain, that could very well be Darwin at work.

But don't expect the taxpayers to bail you out of your stupid-assed decision.

And don't get me started about the government mandating the wear of helmets, except for passengers under 18. The nanny state rears its head again.

I know a guy who bought a brand new Harley and had all the saftey equipment on when he drove it out of the dealers parking lot. He was taking it easy going down a 4 lane 45 MPH road when not 500 yards out of the lot some speeding asshole didn't see him and ran him over from behind! He is no longer with us! When its your time its your time!
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 06:05:10 PM »
I really don't give a shit if you wear your helmet or not. We have two Harley's and you would never catch me without a helmet.  It's just stupidity to think your soft little shell is not going to splat on asphalt.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 07:26:47 PM »
I've heard some riders say they don't wear a helmet because they don't "want to be a brain on a stick."  They don't want to live through a crash that leaves them paralyzed.  I don't think we can effect the outcome with certainty.  I've seen some wild outcomes from all sorts of combinations of wearing or not wearing safey devices.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2011, 07:38:01 PM »
I saw a couple on a bike the other day. the driver had a full faced helmet, his gf? had a tanktop, short shorts, and flip flops. It should be the driver's responsibilty to make sure his passenger dresses appropriately too.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2011, 03:36:48 AM »
When I was in San Diego and actually HAD a motorcycle, I normally wore my helmet. There were times I didn't. I was a little "crazier" back then. In today's age and with my experience, I don't think I'd find myself without one. I see people around here  dressed far too improperly for riding a motorcycle. My beef is the hypocritical states that have seat belt laws, but no helmet laws. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2011, 04:48:16 AM »
Quote from: Thor on July 04, 2011, 03:36:48 AM
When I was in San Diego and actually HAD a motorcycle, I normally wore my helmet. There were times I didn't. I was a little "crazier" back then. In today's age and with my experience, I don't think I'd find myself without one. I see people around here  dressed far too improperly for riding a motorcycle. My beef is the hypocritical states that have seat belt laws, but no helmet laws. Seems kind of hypocritical to me.

Ways of the world my friends.

My son will not wear a helmet as he says it interfears with both hearing and some sight.  He also claims that the back construction of the helmet can in fact break ones neck in a fall.

Odd, when he wife and son took up mounting biking on bicycles they ALL wore bike helmets.

He wears a seat belt in his truck or car, never had an accident ,however, on his old Harley he ran into a deer and crushed his ankle, one night slid on loose gravel and some how ended upside down in a small tree.

His Dad, my EX would not let me ride without leathers and boots, my sons wife jumps aboard in shorts, tank top, and sandals, no helmet.

Are they Nuts, who knows I rode horses at 10 with no helmet, road jet skies, no helmet at 80mph.
I watch Bull riders and bronco busters with no Helmet.   Ice skated and roller skated bare head.

Makes me wonder as we as kids in the 1960's sat on the back boot of a convertable and roared down the road, no seat belt, no helmet, radio blasting, and we lived--some of us did.





   
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2011, 07:22:10 AM »
Let those who ride decide.

If I had my druthers, I'd druther not. I have a 1/2 helmet. I wear it when required.

They get hot and heavy after a while. This causes fatigue. They reduce your peripheral vision. They reduce your hearing. If you go down over 20 mph, they're not going to help anyway.

I guess my activities are dangerous. I've jumped out of aircraft, ride motorcycles and shoot action shooting every Sunday (IPSC/USPSA). I ain't quite ready for an Xbox just yet.

I have nothing against those who choose to wear a brain bucket. It's about choice.
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Re: This is why you wear helmets
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 08:25:40 AM »
Bike Week in Laconia every year.  And every year, some dumbshit does something stupid and becomes a statistic.  Usually because they were 1--drunk, 2--not wearing a helmet.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 11:03:19 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on July 05, 2011, 08:25:40 AM
Bike Week in Laconia every year.  And every year, some dumbshit does something stupid and becomes a statistic.  Usually because they were 1--drunk, 2--not wearing a helmet.

Have you ever seen a motorcycle convoy on 93?? It can be quite impressive.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 12:54:49 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on July 05, 2011, 11:03:19 AM
Have you ever seen a motorcycle convoy on 93?? It can be quite impressive.

the vibration alone is impressive  :naughty:
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 01:01:31 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on July 05, 2011, 11:03:19 AM
Have you ever seen a motorcycle convoy on 93?? It can be quite impressive.

I was in one that totaled over 200. 99% Harleys.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 01:26:59 PM »
Quote from: seahorse513 on July 05, 2011, 11:03:19 AM
Have you ever seen a motorcycle convoy on 93?? It can be quite impressive.

I-95, up the Spaulding, then up Route 11 through Farmington and New Durham to the lake.

I live on a side road of that.  I see them on TWO LANE ROADS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.  "Impressive" isn't the word that comes to mind.  Obnoxious, yes.  Impressive, no.

Loud pipes save lives, my ass.  Do it in front of my house while you're doing 55-60 mph in a 30 mph zone at 11 at night and one of these days I might just pull a piano wire across the road.  And I know the neighbors will help.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2011, 03:52:44 PM »
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Do it in front of my house while you're doing 55-60 mph in a 30 mph zone at 11 at night and

No , I agree, that is not very courteous, especially, because of the long hours you work....

Whether it is seeing convoys going to a blessing of the bikes or Laconia, I have always enjoying viewing them, in the day time...
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