Charity- It's for the other people to donate

[Tucker]

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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 08:53 PM
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I cannot stand when coroporations ask us for charitable donations
   
This matter has bothered me for some time.

I cannot stand when you go to the store and they ask you for money for charity, especially these days.
Consider these sob's have nearly 2 TRILLION in cash, they WILL NOT hire, they outsource our jobs, demand more tax breaks, then ask us to donate to charity.
Now, I give to charity. I CHOSE the charities that I give to. I will not, under any circumstance give one sent to charity through
a third party.

I see plenty of donation jars in stores that are fund raisers for local people who have been struck by some tragedy or another.

The word "donation" is as alien to DUmbasses as the word "work".

KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:07 PM
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1. And they are "Corporate approved"
   
charities too. Do you think that a huge grocery store is going to donate to breast cancer or prostate cancer research that looks at environmental causes? No because their merchandise would be scrutinized.
There are others too and I find them to be an affront at the checkstand.

Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:09 PM
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2. Thank you for your support.
   
These days, make sure the clerks know about the trillions the corporations are sitting on when they ask me for a "charitable" contribution.
My father has never given one cent through a third party. I have recently joined him.

I'd laugh in your face.

RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:16 PM
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3. Even if you had $40T in cash with the uncertainly right now, you would have to have actual feces
   
where your brains are to increase labor costs right now, or any costs for that matter.

It's Bush's fault.

geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:17 PM
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4. And I never donate. Except through government mandated tax gievaways.

No sarcasm emoticon so I would guess he's serious.

Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:49 PM
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7. I consciously avoid making a donation like that
   
for one thing they get all the credit when it doesn't even come from them but from the customers they put the bite on.

So what! It's not about recognition, it's about those in need.

I don't think you'll ever understand that.

999998th word (273 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 11:28 PM
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13. Bingo & they get the tax break too
   
they can go fLIck themselves.

Extra $$ ,if I ever have any go to local food bank.

Birds of a feather...

xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:54 PM
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8. Agree. And--
   
--as greedy as these corporate ****s are, how do we know the money actually goes to the purported charity?

 It's a hate fest from the pathetic little pissants.

[ChuckJ]

Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 08:53 PM
Original message
I cannot stand when coroporations ask us for charitable donations
   
This matter has bothered me for some time.

I cannot stand when you go to the store and they ask you for money for charity, especially these days.
Consider these sob's have nearly 2 TRILLION in cash, they WILL NOT hire, they outsource our jobs, demand more tax breaks, then ask us to donate to charity.
Now, I give to charity. I CHOSE the charities that I give to. I will not, under any circumstance give one sent to charity through
a third party.

But it is okay for the government to take the hard earned money of working men and women and pass it out to the lazy charity cases the likes of which populate the DUmp?

[Tucker]

But it is okay for the government to take the hard earned money of working men and women and pass it out to the lazy charity cases the likes of which populate the DUmp?

I think that's the point that geckosfeet is making in post 4

[GOBUCKS]

I kind of like this new DUmp mantra that the evil American CEOs are sitting on trillions of dollars, just to prolong
the recession and make the jug-eared muslim look bad. As if he needs help.

[delilahmused]

KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 09:07 PM
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1. And they are "Corporate approved"
   
charities too. Do you think that a huge grocery store is going to donate to breast cancer or prostate cancer research that looks at environmental causes? No because their merchandise would be scrutinized.
There are others too and I find them to be an affront at the checkstand.

Do you think the baby killing crowd will look at the very strong connection between abortion and breast cancer? Oh, and you don't HAVE to give. It's voluntary. That's the point. The government just takes and distributes it however it wants. We the people don't get a choice. We don't even get a choice in how much we want to give. It's a reverse Robin Hood. You people are so stupid and twisted you complain about something that helps those you guys pretend to care about and that you in no way are being forced to help. And corporations give in addition to what their patrons give. As to the kinds of research they contribute to, they give to foundations & charities working in a particular field (breast/prostate cancer, etc.), they in no way have any say in where the money goes once it's donated. So you really have no clue whether any of those organizations are studying environmental causes of cancers. Don't worry, though, DUmmies, a couple of minutes and you'll find something else to bitch about.

Cindie

[USA4ME]

999998th word

13. Bingo & they get the tax break too

The primitive actually believes that money collected from customers by a corp for a particular charity is used by the corp as a tax deduction.  Now there's a special level of stupidity.

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[thundley4]

The primitive actually believes that money collected from customers by a corp for a particular charity is used by the corp as a tax deduction.  Now there's a special level of stupidity.

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The only time I see any announcements of giving like that is usually on Jerry Lewis' Labor Day Telethon.  They make a point of saying that so much is from the customers , so much from the employees and any corporate donation if there is one.

[USA4ME]

The only time I see any announcements of giving like that is usually on Jerry Lewis' Labor Day Telethon.  They make a point of saying that so much is from the customers , so much from the employees and any corporate donation if there is one.

Yep, that's exactly what I've seen, too.

This primitive doesn't even realize it's a straight pass through.  The money collected isn't counted as income, otherwise it would be subject to sales tax.  It comes in as a charitable contribution collected on behalf of the charitable organization and goes out as a charitable contribution made to the charitable organization.

So how does $1 collected that goes out as $1 given turn into a "tax break?"  This is how ---->   

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[thelaughingman]

Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-18-11 08:53 PM
Original message
I cannot stand when coroporations ask us for charitable donations
   
This matter has bothered me for some time.

I cannot stand when you go to the store and they ask you for money for charity, especially these days.
Consider these sob's have nearly 2 TRILLION in cash, they WILL NOT hire, they outsource our jobs, demand more tax breaks, then ask us to donate to charity.
Now, I give to charity. I CHOSE the charities that I give to. I will not, under any circumstance give one sent to charity through
a third party.

I can read "Walmart" between the lines there.  You're not supposed to be shopping at Walmart, DUmmy.  It's against Skimmer's rules.

[GOBUCKS]

I will not, under any circumstance give one sent to charity through a third party.
Pam, is that you?

[MrsSmith]

Wow, wouldn't you think they'd absolutely love the Koch brothers, given what kind of charity donations they make all the time?   

[Rebel]

I feel the same way when foreign aid food we send out is stamped with "U.N.", DUmbasses. I'm sure you disagree. The difference is, a business "asks" me to contribute. I don't have a say so in my stolen money going to that corrupt organization known as the United despotic Nations.

[BlueStateSaint]

Wow, wouldn't you think they'd absolutely love the Koch brothers, given what kind of charity donations they make all the time?   

It's just not to their charities--Planned Parenthood, NARAL, NAMBLA, etc.

[Karin]

Yeah, that tax break remark was pretty damn stupid.  This thread makes them look particularly mean and selfish. 
Children's Miracle Network hospitals are a typical charity that would be featured in the convenience store.  A fine charity.  The store is merely using its facility as a traffic conduit to raise some money for it, as a community service.  What is so evil about that? 

The famous liberal compassion. 

[jukin]

First, does anyone here really think that any of the DUmbasses actually give to any charity? I don't.

Second, being a liberal means you care enough about a person to steal someone else's money to give to that person.

[GOBUCKS]

First, does anyone here really think that any of the DUmbasses actually give to any charity? I don't.

Second, being a liberal means you care enough about a person to steal someone else's money to give to that person.

DUmmies have been reluctant to give since the freepers killed Andy.

Between the freepers shutting down PayPal, and hospital finance offices losing your checks, what's the point?

[NHSparky]

To be fair, our company has a big thing with United Way.  I don't donate to them, nor do I donate to Red Cross.  Not after the shit they pulled after 9/11, and Red Cross (again) for other issues while I was in the Navy, but that's another story.

I'll decide where my money goes, not some administrator.  I think donating directly has a much greater impact anyway.

Don't you, DUmmies?

[jukin]

To be fair, our company has a big thing with United Way.  I don't donate to them, nor do I donate to Red Cross.  Not after the shit they pulled after 9/11, and Red Cross (again) for other issues while I was in the Navy, but that's another story.

I'll decide where my money goes, not some administrator.  I think donating directly has a much greater impact anyway.

Don't you, DUmmies?

United Way lost my donations after the BSA incident. Red Cross after the 9/11 funding of other operations. I know only give to the BSA and Salvation Army. Both of those organizations have the highest percentage of donations to actual money used. Our local UW director pulls down close to $350k/yr.