Sick, sick and tired

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NMMNG (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jun-19-11 07:54 PM
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Sick, sick and tired
   
I'm a far-left liberal. I've grown more liberal as I've aged. I give to various charities. If I come across a panhandler I'll give them a few bucks. When the schools recently needed emergency funds I gladly voted to raise my taxes because though I don't have (and never will have) children I think it's important for kids to have a good public education. Every time there's a major disaster I send what I can to help the victims. I fight to keep abortion legal though I'll never need one. I do all this and more because I think it's the right thing to do.

But it seems when it comes to me and mine that I hear the same refrains.

There are too few LGBT people for the government and general public to waste time and resources on your petty issues.

Really? Since when did Americans start rationing rights based on the size of the affected group? There are plenty of groups in the US that are as small as or smaller in size than LGBT Americans. Mormons (2%) , Native Americans (about 1.4%) and people with intellectual disabilities (perhaps 3%) come to mind. Should their rights be ignored or withheld because there “aren't enough of them to bother”?

And since when are basic human rights "petty issues"?


Your rights aren't as important as other concerns/
You're selfish for wanting your needs to be addressed before all of the other More Important Issues

This is a twofer that, much like the previous statement, tells us “You simply don't matter”. Of course the latter claim also heaps derision on us for having the audacity to ask for what is rightfully ours. We've even been called sociopaths because we won't wait until every child is fed, every war is over, every human being is employed, every person has health care, there's a chicken in every pot, everyone has a roof over his/her head, etc, before daring to ask for the same rights others have and enjoy.

Yes there are other problems that exist. There are unemployed people, hungry children, wars, people without health insurance, etc. But there have always been and always will be Other Things. To claim that we cannot or must not address the matter of equal rights for human beings until those other issues is absurd. To blame the oppressed for asking for an end to the oppression is just plain cruel.

What is more, this implies that LGBT people are not affected by those More Important Other Things. The reality is that we are very much affected by them, and we endure the burden of inequality as well. In fact, inequality often exacerbates for us the More Important Other Things. We have to cope with unemployment—which is made worse by the fact that it is perfectly legal in more than half of US states to refuse employment or to fire someone just because they are LGBT. We face homelessness—and in more than half of US states can be refused housing or evicted just because we are LGBT. The list goes on and on.


Why aren't you happy with what you're getting? Why are you rabble-rousing for more?/
You can't expect everything overnight

Nobody expects everything overnight. But we're constantly being fed promises in exchange for our votes. Politicians tell us things like “I'll start getting rid of that evil law the first day I'm in office”. Then he gets in office and doesn't even address it. After a year of agitating by LGBT activists (who get infinite grief over the whining their doing about their petty pet issues) he says they need to do a bunch of studies to find out how it will affect the straight people, the straight people's spouses, the straight people's dogs, etc. Another year passes. Then once things start getting heated up for the next set of elections the politician says “We're thinking about considering getting rid of that law now”. And we're supposed to go cuckoobananas because this guy is our bestest friend ever.



There's an election coming up!!!



There's always an election coming up. Ergo, there's always a convenient reason to ignore LGBT human rights lest we rile up the bigots. But still we should vote for the people with so little testicular fortitude that they can't stand up to the bigots.

You think it's bad now just see how bad it would be if the Republicans were in office!

Oh yeah, that's right. The Dems suck, but just think how much suckier it could be!!! Whee! We can decide between being ignored and facing stealth abuse and being openly abused. Oh, the choices!



Gay Person X says he's happy with (politician) or (law) so why aren't you?

I'm an individual. I don't love Big Brother and no matter how many times you beat me over the head with Token Gay you can't make me like oppression.

Special rights!

Equal rights are not special rights.


You have to respect other people's beliefs

Not when their beliefs involve harming or oppressing others.





At any rate, it's become obvious that me and mine don't really matter. We're too small and insignificant to matter. Our rights are merely a “wedge issue” that are perceived as a threat to the Democratic party. Refraining from pissing of the Republicans is more important than equal human rights. And we LGBT people are just a bunch of whiny, selfish sociopaths who want Oompah Loompahs and rainbow farting ponies.

So I think I should just stop fighting and just live down to their expectations....



The kiddies need more money for schools? Don't ask me to pay more taxes. Let the parents dig deeper into their own pockets or have a bake sale.

Natural disaster? Sorry, can't help you.


Abortion rights? Why should I care? My wife's never going to get me pregnant.



I'll take all the money I save and put it toward the extra tax penalties my wife and I face merely because we don't have opposite genitals. I'll save it for when one of us dies and the other can't collect her partner's Social Security. I'll save it for any of the thousands of financial penalties LGBT couples face that heterosexual couples don't.

Then maybe, just maybe, if people ever get around to considering me and mine important enough to care about rather than ignore, oppress and abuse, I might get back to where I used to be. Right now I'm just to tired of it all.

Never heard of this DUmmie. More whiny gay shit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x179424

[JohnnyReb]

What "Human Rights" do they not have?

What "needs" are not be addressed?

Enquiring minds may want to know .....but personally, I don't give a flip.

[dandi]

NMMNG (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Jun-19-11 07:54 PM
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Then maybe, just maybe, if people ever get around to considering me and mine important enough to care about rather than ignore, oppress and abuse, I might get back to where I used to be. Right now I'm just to tired of it all.

Yes, thank you, duly noted.

Now, go sit your poofter ass in the corner and suck your thumb until we give a shit.

[Karin]

I'll take all the money I save and put it toward the extra tax penalties my wife and I face merely because we don't have opposite genitals.

What are you talking about?  According to Obama, if you each make $199,999, totalling up $399,998 for the household, you aren't "rich," and subject to his millionaire's tax.  If you were married, you're rich at $250,000 for the both of you.  It's the married people getting the penalty.  As roommates, you've got it made. 

[jukin]

I got a hunski that says other than voting for higher taxes for people that actually pay them, this DUchebag has never donated to charity. Never donated time to any charity other than some glbt BS.

I will win that bet.

[vesta111]

Actually this poster has a point in some issues-----We now have handicapped entrances to public buildings, the big retailers have wheel chairs and electric chairs to carry the shoppers that have physical problems.

It is difficult to find a restaurant or Mall that does not have over sized toilet stalls to accommodate those with problems.  Most entertainment enterprises have from theaters for live acts to movie theaters easy access to their personal facilities or ease to watch their entertainment.

City streets have cuts in the curbs to allow access to the sidewalk for the people in wheel chairs or difficulty in walking.

What more can we do for the minority, the trans sexual that demand a separate bathroom. In a town of 20,000 people there may be 15-20 people demanding this.

Example------In our area 15 or more years ago a transsexual that was one of 5,000 men and woman working on a Government ship yard caused a ruckus as they were harassed as to their sex change.  The Government actually built a separate toilet area for this one man.

Not longer after winning his law suit he quit his job, and began to live on the contributions from the small gay comunity and the fag hags that hung around gay men.

This man/woman was not hand capped in any way, When one looks at the people in a comunity that have valid reasons for wishing for accommodations, some times getting them sometimes not. The true elderly and handy capped out numbered the Transsexuals and gays by 1200 to 40.

Unless the Gay, lesbian, trans sexual  wish to claim they have a mental Handy cap, I see no reason to put one penny in their pockets for any darn thing. Only difference between them and me and hubby is I also like men and Hubby likes woman.

By the way Obama has declared this month as a pride month for those with unusual sex practices-----

Bring in the sheep and goats.  

[GOBUCKS]

The true elderly and handy capped out numbered the Transsexuals and gays by 1200 to 40.

Unless the Gay, lesbian, trans sexual  wish to claim they have a mental Handy cap, I see no reason

Yeah, cap this, DUmmy!

[Rebel]

Unless the Gay, lesbian, trans sexual  wish to claim they have a mental Handy cap, I see no reason to put one penny in their pockets for any darn thing. Only difference between them and me and hubby is I also like men and Hubby likes woman.

I agree. Whole heartedly. 

[delilahmused]

What "Human Rights" do they not have?

What "needs" are not be addressed?

Enquiring minds may want to know .....but personally, I don't give a flip.

Every lesbian couple should have access to a turkey baster and free sperm bank privileges?

Cindie