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Offline vesta111

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Re: Man who was high, fed bears, and was mauled, gets workers' comp
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2011, 11:22:13 AM »
Eh.  There's nothing impressive about pitbulls, aside from the lengths which the people who like the breeds will go to in attempts to prove that they have some redeemable working value.  Seems like the breed only attracts thugs and liberals.  Why?  Anyone with any sense gets a breed that can... you know... actually do the work.  There's a reason why you see Police Departments avoid them, and you *don't* see anyone being successful with the breed in any legit, competitive sport like Schutzhund or French Ring.

Now, the German Shepherd, on the other hand...
There's a dog I wouldn't suggest poking a stick at.

Poke my puppy with a stick, I dare ya!




Mp, my dear, some country's as Germany now go with the Rotties as the prison inmates can and do kill the Shepard's, --from what I heard and this is really sick they will grab the dog by the front legs and stretch them out to break bone and cartilage.   

Shepard's are really friendly dogs, throw them a crust of bread and as you have fed them they do not fear you, yes they will attack when ordered to but these dogs are still vulnerable to 200 pound men that are fighting for their lives.

Rotties are another kettle of fish, 100 pounds or more and if not raised in a family, a one man dog.   Rotties are not like Shepard's mentally, they are constantly on the look out for their masters safety, they will break down a door to see what they are doing in the tub or on the toilet

Only once in her life did my Rottie act up, she   growled at a person who walked past her on the street.   Her nose was telling her something was not right with the man. This is difficult for me to write but My Rottie a huge big girl .She was a big beast and when the kids or adults were around I would warn them to never look her in the eye to look at her ears but never to challenge her.  Never act as pray, no rolling on the carpet or running from her.

Lord MP. I loved that dog, I took her to the range and she just sat, no gun shot fear.  I felt I could have walked into Hell with her and been safe, she was so much more aware of things then a human would be.

I feel safe with Hubby, but he does not have the hearing, eye site, or smell my big girl had.   Plus Hubby does not spend his life at my side guarding me from danger

.Unlike a human the dog would get up to check on any little noise she heard in the day or night.  When we had to put her down 8 years ago I still grieve, when I see a Rottie being walked or at a dog show I still tear up. Due to cancer it was like pulling the plug on a child or parent.-------

I had one Shepard that helped me raise my kids and died after 5 years, we grieved for him, but no other breed from the Rottie has effected me as much as this one huge dog that stole all our hearts and we will never forget.

Just to say that you are young and can train and have a savior at your side, I now am too old to ever have a beast to protect me-----unless Hubby kicks off and somehow I hook up with an ageing biker .     These old men make pit bulls look harmless.

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Re: Man who was high, fed bears, and was mauled, gets workers' comp
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2011, 11:33:32 AM »
Uh huh.
I served in Iraq with only German Shepherds and Malinois.  No Rotts.  No Pits.  There's a reason for that.

Brute strength in a working dog is useless without agility, speed, stamina and dexterity.  Rotts and Pits are lumbering powerhouses.
You're comparing sumo wrestlers with martial artists here.
Good luck putting a 90 lb Rott through a second story window for a building entry.

Rotties were popular in Schutzhund and Ring Sport in the 80s.  You still see some people work them, but they don't make it to National or World level competition.  They cannot compete with the GSDs and Malinois.

Clearly, you have never seen a properly bred German Shepherd.
The breed standard calls for them to be aloof to anyone outside the family.  A "friendly to anyone" German Shepherd is a badly bred, faulty GSD who should be spayed or neutered at maturity to prevent the perpetuation of bad genetics.
Food refusal is innate to most well-bred GSDs, but to those who weren't born with good sense, it's an easily trainable task.
A German Shepherd should also not flinch under the gun, which is why the gun sureness test has always, and will always be a part of Schutzhund.  
A well trained dog obey commands under distraction- to include the distractions of a gunshot, or a child running around and rolling on the carpet and appealing to the dog's prey drive.

Most of what people see as "protective" qualities in untrained dogs are really nerve and temperament problems.

Nice collection of working dogs and breeds [Mals, GSDs, what appears to be a Dutchie]:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXL33bufn0[/youtube]
The lack of Rotts or Pits is conspicuous.

Regardless, all of these dogs are domesticated and trained, and won't bite unless permitted to do so by their handlers.

I wouldn't say you're too old for a dog.
My friend Jason Lake is wheelchair bound.
He trains and competes in Schutzhund at a Regional [soon to be National!] level with his German Shepherd "Dante".

Posted a vid of Jason on the "dogs" thread on the Hobby board, which is probably where we should move the topic if we're going to continue.

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Re: Man who was high, fed bears, and was mauled, gets workers' comp
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2011, 01:05:57 PM »
Does the bear get compensated for having the taste of liberal in his mouth?

Nah, he'll just lick his ass to get rid of it.
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