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HEyHEY  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Sun Feb-27-11 01:08 PM
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Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
   
A bunch of guys who aren't loaded get together and say, "Hey, if we are united we can all make more money!" Sounds like a simple and effective business plan to me.

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You goons say capitalism exploits poor people and lines the pockets of the rich.
Unions do just that, so you are right unions are evil capitalists that you should oppose starting now.

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1. To say nothing of the fact that a union is a democracy, and a corporation is not.
   
Democracy, and the rights of working people are why I am a union-supporter. :thumbsup:

Union a democracy? Well maybe if you consider Chavez a democratic leader, and not a dictator, then you may view unions as democratic as well.

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5. RW SuckerPuppets got wicked bad Daddy Complexes
   
They imagine the Corporate Daddy will take care of them and tell them what to think and what to do. That's all they really want out of life. Actual autonomy & democracy (such as in a union) is frightening for them.

Talk about projection. Unions are the daddy that libs need to hold their hands and tell them what to think, who to vote for, and just how much money is fair for them. Autonomy scares the daylights out of liberals because that could mean you have to be responsible for your own self.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 12:56:21 PM »
I love it when DUmmies try to re-write the dictionary and history books to make themselves look better.  It never works.
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 12:58:07 PM »
It wasn't all that long ago when the DUmmies were complaining about the UAW leadership selling out the members.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 01:00:15 PM »
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 11:52:24 AM »
Yeah, cuz shaking someone down and forcing them to give to an organization just to KEEP a job so the union bosses can line their pockets with half and pay off politicians with the other half. Show me an evil corporation that does that.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 04:36:21 PM »
How are unions capitalistic?  :???: :mental:
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 04:45:19 PM »
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1 POTATO ...2 POTATO ...3 POTATO...MOE....we belong to the union and we want MOE.
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 04:45:55 PM »
How are unions capitalistic?  :???: :mental:

Because they took over the Wisconsin CAPITOL.  It's CAPITOLism!  ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!   :lmao:
 
 
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 04:55:42 PM »
Yeah, cuz shaking someone down and forcing them to give to an organization just to KEEP a job so the union bosses can line their pockets with half and pay off politicians with the other half. Show me an evil corporation that does that.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 05:48:30 PM »

Because they took over the Wisconsin CAPITOL.  It's CAPITOLism!  ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!   :lmao:
 
 
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 06:52:25 PM »
Once again - its not all unions that are the problem, just public sector ones. Those end up being monopolies. 

Now primitives, who is it that says monopolies are bad ?? Oh thats right, YOU DO.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 07:07:34 PM »
Once again - its not all unions that are the problem, just public sector ones. Those end up being monopolies. 

Now primitives, who is it that says monopolies are bad ?? Oh thats right, YOU DO.

On the contrary, unions are helping to drive manufacturing jobs offshore. How many companies close and ship jobs overseas are union and how many are non-union?

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 07:26:05 PM »
Oh, FFS!  Next, they'll be calling unions "non-profits". 
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 08:02:35 PM »
Oh, FFS!  Next, they'll be calling unions "non-profits". 

Well they are ya know. What was the profit GM posted right before ObieOne bailed 'em out?
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2011, 08:07:49 PM »
I thought the libtards and DUmmies hated capitalism?! Why are they comparing unions to capitalism?  :hammer:
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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 09:21:43 PM »
On the contrary, unions are helping to drive manufacturing jobs offshore. How many companies close and ship jobs overseas are union and how many are non-union?

That is true - but the problem of overbearing unions in private companies corrects itself when the company goes bankrupt - and hopefully the company that replaces it isn't so foolhardy. When the Union is a public sector one, what then ? When our government goes bankrupt, we are forced to pay to keep it solvent.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2011, 06:13:31 AM »
We should start a new feature for DUmbasses called, :What your public school failed to teach you."

Pay attention students:

1. capitalism isn't exclusively about making money but also keeping it as simple math says you aren't rich if you earn $1,000,000/day while spending $1,000,001/day

2. ergo capitalism is also about preserving wealth

3. the flip side of capitalism is the free market which preserves wealth

4. free markets favor consumers as competition drives down prices while improving quality

5. unions monopolize labor

6. monopolies are the antithesis of a competitive marketplace which drives up prices while quality suffers

To wit: public schools


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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 12:10:57 PM »
We should start a new feature for DUmbasses called, :What your public school failed to teach you."

Pay attention students:

1. capitalism isn't exclusively about making money but also keeping it as simple math says you aren't rich if you earn $1,000,000/day while spending $1,000,001/day

2. ergo capitalism is also about preserving wealth

3. the flip side of capitalism is the free market which preserves wealth

4. free markets favor consumers as competition drives down prices while improving quality

5. unions monopolize labor

6. monopolies are the antithesis of a competitive marketplace which drives up prices while quality suffers

To wit: public schools


Now go write it 100 times. There will be a test entitled, "Real Life" on your desk shortly.

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Re: Why can't right wingers see that unions are a pure form of capitalism?
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 07:51:57 AM »
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