The DUmmies hold a long debate on an alliance between lunatics from the fringes of the left and right. As usual, they have no idea what they are talking about, but a few of them accidentally make legitimate points:
babsbunny (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 04:43 PM
Original message
Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-ralph-nader... /
In this corner, a libertarian, tea party hero who ran several campaigns as a candidate for US president on the Republican ticket. And in that corner, a progressive icon of the left who also ran several campaigns for the US presidency but on the Green Party ticket.
One might think the two men, seemingly ideologically opposed to one another, would rather argue than help one another.
However, on Wednesday's broadcast of Freedom Watch on the Fox Business channel, Judge Napolitano sat down for an amiable interview with Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) and Ralph Nader to discuss a progressive-libertarian alliance in the 112th session of respective chambers in Congress.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x251611What do you get if you cross Ron Paul with Ralph Nader?
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:26 PM
What's the coalition going to do beyond supporting Republican legislation?
Is Paul planning to support the Progressive Caucus?
Paul only supports the Paul caucus. He's a certifiable nut.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:41 PM
What are you people talking about?
Bernie Sanders works with Ron Paul to do the same thing Nader wants to do with Paul. Paul is all over the place, and the issues they will be tackling are progressive. But you people see the name Nader and lose your minds.
Whoa! Bernie Sanders! A third crackpot dives into the stew pot!
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:53 PM
What are you talking about?
The Democratic caucus works with Republicans (Ron Paul is a member of their caucus) all the time.
His positions are even more whacked than theirs.
Right on one count, Paul is whacked.
ProSense (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:02 PM
What?
The issue is I think Paul is a kook and Nader has become a miguided opportunist.
Wrong, DUmmy ProSense. They are both comically insane kooks, with reprehensible followers.
Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #15
There are areas of agreement between the Libertarian and Green constituencies.
On things like ending the drug war, getting government out of citizens' bodies, not wasting money going after "morals" crimes between consenting adults, ending censorship and other misguided 'crusades'....
customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 05:11 PM
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6. Just a few days ago, someone here asked about the chances that Ron Paul
would win the Rethug nomination. I said there was no way that would happen, then Paul cozies up to Nader. With friends like that, the Repukes would never nominate Paul, or any other pure libertarian that the fundies just wouldn't approve of.
customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. That would be good
For us! He could do to the Pukes what Nader did to us!
A brief moment of lucidity.
Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 06:34 PM
Response to Original message
38. No different than Alan Grayson partnering with Ron Paul on the Fed
or wanting to end the damn wars.
We do have a few things in common.
And now a fourth lunatic in the stew! But now Paul, the lone libertarian nutbag, is outnumbered by commie moonbats.
Well, the thread has now attracted DUmmy reggie the dog, who may be the DUmp's only pure-blooded ronbot.
reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-22-11 07:26 PM
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64. ron paul is capitalist for sure
but he is not a corporatist and wants to end CORPORATE welfare, he is the kind of right wing liberals can actually be BIPARTISAN with. i think most of us liberals are against the patriot act I and II, are against the wars in afghanistan and iraq, are against corporate welfare, he wants MORE regulation of wall street,. on these issues alone the kind of conservatives that ron paul represents want the same as us liberals. of course sanders and paul will disagree about other issues and will not vote the same, but at least they are able to see that their differing political views do indeed sometimes overlap...
can you imagine how much better shape the usa would be in if someone like ron paul had been in power instead of reagan (as to say that if that kind of republican had won in 1980 (i would have rather carter won, but if we were obliged to have 8 years of republicans at least ron paul is more like 1950s republicans...
there are common points between even the tea party and the liberal movement
DUmmy reggie the dog would fit right in with the flood of newbies we saw last week.
