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Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners

Secret Tests At LAX, O'Hare, Newark Show TSA Screeners Missed Guns, Bombs

By MATTHEW MOSK, ANGELA HILL and TIMOTHY FLEMING
Dec. 16, 2010

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Last fall, as he had done hundreds of times, Iranian-American businessman Farid Seif passed through security at a Houston airport and boarded an international flight.

He didn't realize he had forgotten to remove the loaded snub nose "baby" Glock pistol from his computer bag. But TSA officers never noticed as his bag glided along the belt and was x-rayed. When he got to his hotel after the three-hour flight, he was shocked to discover the gun traveled unnoticed from Houston.

"It's just impossible to miss it, you know. I mean, this is not a small gun," Seif told ABC News. "How can you miss it? You cannot miss it."

But the TSA did miss it, and despite what most people believe about the painstaking effort to screen airline passengers and their luggage before they enter the terminal, it was not that unusual.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 02:11:36 PM »
They just need to grope a few more children and we'll all be "more safe".  ::)
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 02:19:48 PM »
They just need to grope a few more children and we'll all be "more safe".  ::)

A few more children and a few nuns, and some grandmothers.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 02:32:41 PM »
Wanna bet if this had be a American businessman  they would have caught it?


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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 03:02:57 PM »
"And you want to be my latex health-care salesman." 

These chuckle heads always bring to mind the picture of George Costanza laying sprawled on the floor, pants around his ankles yelling, "Vandalay Industries"....

In my 30+ years of experience incompetent bureaucrats far out numbered competent.  I firmly believe "The Peter Principle" was used as a valid promotion policy.  It may actually have been a good thing in many cases as it moved the truly mind-numbingly stupid out of the way.



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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 04:16:29 PM »
Obviously, the loaded gun lacked breasts.
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 05:49:58 PM »
Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners

Secret Tests At LAX, O'Hare, Newark Show TSA Screeners Missed Guns, Bombs

By MATTHEW MOSK, ANGELA HILL and TIMOTHY FLEMING
Dec. 16, 2010

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(excerpt)

Last fall, as he had done hundreds of times, Iranian-American businessman Farid Seif passed through security at a Houston airport and boarded an international flight.

He didn't realize he had forgotten to remove the loaded snub nose "baby" Glock pistol from his computer bag. But TSA officers never noticed as his bag glided along the belt and was x-rayed. When he got to his hotel after the three-hour flight, he was shocked to discover the gun traveled unnoticed from Houston.

"It's just impossible to miss it, you know. I mean, this is not a small gun," Seif told ABC News. "How can you miss it? You cannot miss it."

But the TSA did miss it, and despite what most people believe about the painstaking effort to screen airline passengers and their luggage before they enter the terminal, it was not that unusual.

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The fact that he looked like he was from the Middle East explains it all...if he was of about any other race, they would have found it and made a big scene about it. But since he was Arab, if they would have stopped him, it would have caught the ACLU's attention, Democrats, Liberals, Keith Olbermann...any idiots who think they're helping this nation and they would have riled about how racist and incentive the TSA and our government are towards those of Arab look.

Not saying that all are Arabs should be double searched, just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy.

But then again, it seems that our security at airports aren't even concerned with guns anymore so much as liquids and other materials to even be worried about guns. Searches are typically done more for liquids, knives, explosives, basically anything other than a gun. They probably saw it and didn't think twice or were just too lazy. You know when it comes to people's safety, security are the first ones on the job!  :naughty:
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 06:37:10 PM »
Yeah, all you have to do is load up 10 terrorists on a plane, each one of them carrying a firearm in a computer case, three of them get caught, and leave seven to carry out the hijack and drive the plane into the Capitol Building.

That's the success rate - 70% get through on a good day. On a bad day, 100% get through.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 12:16:21 AM »
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 02:37:32 AM »
I wonder if Janet Neapolitano will say the system worked.  :banghead:
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 03:44:09 PM »
Our heroes.  :mental:
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 12:57:05 AM »
Here's what I sent my family by email - they are all driving.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 11:34:55 PM »
How the hell did they miss a gun?  I thought the scanner was supposed to find that in someone's pocket.  It can find a cell phone, why not a gun?

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2010, 11:36:19 PM »
How the hell did they miss a gun?  I thought the scanner was supposed to find that in someone's pocket.  It can find a cell phone, why not a gun?

The TSA guy was distracted by one of the nude scanners and missed the briefcase.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 11:37:50 PM »
The TSA guy was distracted by one of the nude scanners and missed the briefcase.

Or he was busy feeling up some poor helpless kid.

God what a horrible world we live in!

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2010, 11:45:02 PM »
How the hell did they miss a gun?  I thought the scanner was supposed to find that in someone's pocket.  It can find a cell phone, why not a gun?
It was in his luggage.  All those TSA fools had to do was watch a computer screen.
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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 11:48:45 PM »
It was in his luggage.  All those TSA fools had to do was watch a computer screen.

They failed to watch the luggage go through the machine?  Maybe we I should put a puppy in my luggage and see if they find it. :)

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2010, 08:19:59 AM »
Unfortunately the worst part of this is the publicity it has gotten, because 75% of the strength of a security system is building the simple perception that it works well in the minds of the threat that wants to penetrate it.  Once that perception fails, efforts to penetrate it increase drastically and hence so do the chances of a successful hostile penetration.
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 08:39:58 AM »
Unfortunately the worst part of this is the publicity it has gotten, because 75% of the strength of a security system is building the simple perception that it works well in the minds of the threat that wants to penetrate it.  Once that perception fails, efforts to penetrate it increase drastically and hence so do the chances of a successful hostile penetration.

You read that thread about the whacko terrorist in Guantanamo who was interviewed, right? The one about him sleeping on the floor and the cats that wandered over in his general direction?

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2010, 09:08:16 AM »
The one about the Joos using witchcraft on him?  Yeah, that was a hoot!

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 01:46:24 AM »
Why not just scan and search everyone before they even enter the airport, along with at the normal checks. If there are holes then we should do our best to fill them in any way possible.

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Re: Gaping Holes in Airline Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2010, 08:30:38 AM »
Why not just scan and search everyone before they even enter the airport, along with at the normal checks. If there are holes then we should do our best to fill them in any way possible.

Sounds like a pretty lame off-the-cuff response to the observation in the OP that, in essence, every bureaucracy will fail at some level. This particular example happens to be just about as egregious as it comes since every carry-on bag is x-rayed to detect objects that have the distinct shape of a pistol.

Your response is so lame and so off-the-cuff as to beg the questions (see if you can keep up, m-kay?):

1.  What would happen to airport traffic in general, and airline flights in particular, if your idea to "scan and search everyone before the even enter the airport" actually happened? Where would this "scan and search" take place? Would airports have to build special structures alongside the parking garages to do that? Who's going to pay for that? Who's going to pay for the additional TSA people that such an idea would mandate (besides the taxpayer, of course).

2.  What would all this "scan and search" stuff do to airports and airlines that are already on the razor's edge, in terms of profitability? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head. You may think of even more.

My point is, your lame off-the-cuff remark has serious implications for any business - and yes, airports and airlines are businesses and not your personal property to dictate where and how said businesses should operate.

The TSA is a government bureaucracy run by government bureaucrats. Have you ever had any actual work experience in dealing with the government and its bureaucracies at any level? If you did, you just might think twice about your lame, off-the-cuff remarks.

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