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Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:26:20 AM »
...probably many of you have already been thinking along these lines:

1) As we all know, we'll get a better deal when the new House takes over and Pelosi is sidelined as the squalking nothing she really is, and at the cost of only a short period of pain, but even more importantly;

2) As long as the expiring tax rates aren't dealt with, Senate Republicans can just point to that 42-member letter and say "no votes on anything else--or are you really going to go out into the media and try to make a case that the DREAM Act (amnesty) and DADT (corrosive to our military cohesiveness) are more important than dealing with the tax situation? Go ahead, make our next 2 years."

This way, Republicans have an excuse to filibuster, without having to argue the issues on substance; which, I'll grant, opponents are in the right in, of course, but far better to be able to say "you didn't deal with something so important as tax rates for all Americans, you punted on this for 2 f'ing years, and you expect us to do anything about this shit?! (DREAM and DADT)"

The tax battle is far more valuable as a roadblock to the regressives' cram-it-down-our-throats-in-the-lame-duck agenda than as an issue unto itself.

Also, if this goes to the House and passes amended, Republicans are falling into a trap. Then they'll be cast as the abd guys if they filibuster on the grounds that the deal was broken.

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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2010, 10:20:21 AM »
Indeed I have.  Agreeing to the UE extension I could live with, the additional pork bribes are making me puke, and it does not abolish the gift and estate tax, nor apparently deal decisively with the AMT or that stupid 1099 bullshit requirement that got wedged into the Hell Care bill.
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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2010, 12:23:11 PM »
Collins the Rino is already looking for any excuse to sell us out, Tank:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/collins-hands-reid-a-final-offer-on-dont-ask-dont-tell.php

The hold-up on the Tax "compromise" is the only thing keeping the Rinos caged.

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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2010, 03:12:32 PM »
Like Nazi Pelosi says, we have to pass the bill to see what's in it.
Some are calling this tax extension bill, "Stimulus 2". I can only imagine what they have "porked" in there. How much of it is going overseas? How much of it will "actually" do any good for the U.S.?

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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2010, 07:33:27 AM »
I have absolutely no faith in the incoming Republican Congress... just look at them.  Still lacking anything resembling a single ball between them.
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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 03:17:28 PM »
Oh, hey, I missed something: the letter has TWO legislative priorities before votes for cloture happen for any other legislation: the tax rates, AND the continuing spending resolution. And the second is on the voting docket for tomorrow, isn't it? ONE of these has to be strung out until the 31st, if necessary.

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Re: Best possible result this year is no deal on the tax deal...
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 03:39:15 PM »
I was heartened when all this started, and now I'm not anymore.  I agree with Godot, I don't want this monster.  It's laden with so much pork and bullshit and free ponies and hidden extra surprises that I don't trust it at all.  This is what I want:

Let the whole thing crash and burn.
All the loser Dems go home.
Taxes for everybody goes up with the first January paycheck.
Everybody howls, screams, jumps up & down cause Christmas bills are due.
Dems are blamed for stealing food off your table.
Republicans pass a clean, neat bill with tax rate extensions, abolish the estate tax, include a payroll tax holiday for both sides of it, and NO pork bullshit.  EU can be extended, but not for 13 months.  A bill 10 pages long.