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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-13-10 02:58 PMOriginal message I think some liberals view women as children. Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 03:04 PM by ZombieHordeChildren need our protection because they are both physically weaker than adults and mentally weaker than adults. Special rules are created to help compensate for children's weaknesses. Hurting a child is considered more heinous than hurting an adult. This is because a child is considerably weaker than the average adult. When a man attacks a woman, this is also considered heinous because men are generally much stronger than women. In my opinion, these views are reasonable. Now let's consider mutilation. There is a story on DU about three men who castrated another man for dating a 17 year old. Generally speaking, three men are significantly stronger than one man. This difference in strength is considerably more than the difference in strength between one man and one woman. Some people have had some good fun with this story and made jokes, but what if the story was one man amputating the nipples of a woman for the same reason, or three women mutilating one woman? Would people still make jokes here on DU? I don't think so, and I believe the reason is because women are viewed as both physically and intellectually weaker than men, therefore, mutilating them is more taboo in our culture than mutilating men. In my opinion, this view is unreasonable. Let's look at another example...When we claim, 'having sex with an intoxicated woman is rape,' we are saying the woman is mentally weak. I am not talking about inebriated, or passed out, I am talking about being drunk. We are saying women are unable to control themselves, and require special rules to compensate for their intellectual weaknesses. If two men had some drinks, and then had sex, extremely few would consider the sex to be rape. This is because men are generally viewed as being able to drink responsibly and are more able make adult decisions concerning sex. In my opinion, this view is unreasonable. To me, these two examples look like sexism disguised as feminism. What do you think? I look forward to your thoughtful counterarguments.