Obama should resign if approved UN spying: WikiLeaks founder

[delilahmused]

If the US Government wants to prosecute PFC Manning for giving information that was classified, I'm fine with that.

If you want to go after a journalist who is not a citizen of the US for publishing information given to him, that is a different manner.

I'm still scratching my head how a PFC, was able to download so much information without having a visit to find out why he downloaded it.

That confuses me too. My son's got security clearance, at least as high as Manning and I know he doesn't have access to this kind of information. What was his MOS that gave him access to such a plethora of information, much of which wasn't related to the military?

Cindie

[DumbAss Tanker]

The problem with Obama leaving office is that it leaves a Joe in charge, and we all know what a complete tool he is.

[Allentownjake]

And you have a fictional character in yours that is a weakling, two faced, pseudo intellectual interested in nothing but himself.

I took an oath to the Constitution to the tune of "up to and including my life" for 22 years and have sworn an allegiance to the Flag and "to the Republic for which it stands".  My credentials on this are beyond reproach; especially to you.

How about you try and tackle the question, lefty sage?  If you don't think the Flag is something you should swear an allegiance to and the Constitution is too good for you to swear an oath, what is the point you are trying to make?

My avatar is a joke.

You avatar is the flag of secessionist that got their ass kicked by General Grant and Sherman.

[Ptarmigan]

The US govt is the least of his worries. Once the Russians get a hold of him he will wish that he was in Gitmo instead.

The Russians don't fool around for sure. They will get them in some ways.

[dandi]

My avatar is a joke.

You avatar is the flag of secessionist that got their ass kicked by General Grant and Sherman.

 

It's a symbol that celebrates my Southern heritage and drives the tragically ignorant into fits.  Sorry if your pathetic attempt at baiting me is not working.


Now, why don't you answer the question?  You can't bother to swear allegiance to the Flag nor could you bother to bring yourself to swear an oath to the Constitution, so what is your point?

[Allentownjake]

It's a symbol that celebrates my Southern heritage and drives the tragically ignorant into fits.  Sorry if your pathetic attempt at baiting me is not working.


Now, why don't you answer the question?  You can't bother to swear allegiance to the Flag nor could you bother to bring yourself to swear an oath to the Constitution, so what is your point?

I have no ****ing clue what you were babbling about.  I find it odd, you are attacking my patriotism while celebrating your anscestor's rebellion.  One that was rightly put down.

[Randy]

I have no ****ing clue what you were babbling about.  I find it odd, you are attacking my patriotism while celebrating your anscestor's rebellion.  One that was rightly put down.

Rightly? That sounds like a damned Yankee opinion there.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Yes, if you are a citizen of this country which he is not.

US Laws apply to me, they don't apply to Australians.

We shoot foreign spies during wartime, particularly if they are attempting to harm the war effort.

International law recognizes as much and has done so for millenia.

The fact that Assange was not operating in the agency of any nation state just means he has no place to run.

[dandi]

I have no ****ing clue what you were babbling about.

Okay, simpleton, I'll repeat it for you:

However, when I pledge Allegiance to the US Flag, I don't pledge it to the flag it is to the US Constitution the basis for the flag.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,52268.0/msg,581745.html

You pledge allegiance to the Flag "and to the Republic for which it stands", you take an oath to the Constitution.  Jake, there are those of us that have done/still do both.

If you don't pledge an allegiance to the Flag then you are not pledging an allegiance to "the Republic for which it stands".  The words to the Pledge are pretty clear cut and have no other meanings. 

Are you too good to pledge to the Flag?  Apparently, at some point in your youth, you thought yourself too good to swear an actual oath to the Constitution.

If you don't think the Flag is something you should swear an allegiance to and the Constitution is too good for you to swear an oath, what is the point you are trying to make?

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,52268.0/msg,581985.html

You can't seem to bring yourself to do swear an allegiance to the Flag "and to the Republic for which it stands" but you will instead pledge "to the US Constitution the basis for the flag".  I pointed out that you can swear an allegiance to the standard for which the Republic stands, but it is more accurate to say that you take an oath to the Constitution; that oath being the one all service members take when they raise their right hand to serve and protect your worthless ass.

I was simply pointing out that you didn't have the balls to swear an oath to the Constitution and you can't seem to bring yourself to even pledge an allegiance to the Stars and Stripes. 

Do you get it now, DUmbass?  Did I make it simple enough for you?

I find it odd, you are attacking my patriotism

Anybody, and I do mean anybody, who is stupid/shallow/selfish/ignorant/willfully destructive enough to vote liberal democrat deserves their patriotism questioned.  Why, you may be asking yourself?  Very simply because they are not interested in preserving our Constitution nor our way of life.  Nor are a majority of them willing to put their asses on the line to protect anything.

Kind of like, well, you. 

You may have your fans here, and you may be considered by some to be "reasonable" or "rational" or whatever, but you disgust the hell out of me.  Especially when you try and claim any kind of "patriotism".

So, yeah, any claim of patriotism you may try to make is pretty much dead in my mind.

while celebrating your anscestor's rebellion

I have two sets of ancestors that fought for their independence; one set that fought for their freedom from a king, and one set that fought for their freedom from hostile states.  Right or wrong, they did it to have the freedom to live their lives as they saw fit; not have it dictated to them from a far off centralized government.

You know, DUmbass, liberty and freedom.  The very same things you didn't have the nutsack to defend yourself.

One that was rightly put down.

My, my, Jake.... how very.... Hamiltonian of you.  You would have make King George very proud back when the shitty little colonists were getting all wee-weed up.

[true_blood]

I have no ****ing clue what you were babbling about.  I find it odd, you are attacking my patriotism while celebrating your anscestor's rebellion.  One that was rightly put down.

You did say that you didn't pledge your allegiance to the flag.