War Criminal Now a Republican Congressman

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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Nov-11-10 06:48 PM
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War Criminal Now a Republican Congressman
   
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/11/war_criminal...

In testimony at an Article 32 hearing -- the military's version of a grand jury or preliminary hearing -- West said the policeman, Yahya Jhrodi Hamoody, was not cooperating with interrogators, so he watched four of his soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion beat the detainee on the head and body.

West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.




Nice. God help us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9539648

**** you asshole.
Lt Col West has done more for this country than all of DU combined.
You worthless pricks sit there in your comforts and sling shit at people who put their lives on the line for your freedom. The only thing you ****s ever do is sit there with hands held out demanding that we give you more and more.

fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Nov-11-10 06:50 PM
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1. and the People Who Elected him have no respect for their country
   
NONE!

No you assbag it is you goons with no respect for the freedoms that our constitution was supposed to guarantee us who disrespect our country then to top it off you piss all over someone who served honorably.

Creative (37 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Nov-11-10 06:56 PM
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2. Criminals in Congress? Oh my...
   
Was he convicted in a military or civilian court?

I think I smell pizza cooking.

[DumbAss Tanker]

As I recall he received an Article 15 for it, which although a black mark for one's military record, does not count as a conviction of any sort as far as DOJ is concerned once you leave service.  He basically admitted his actions, which were clearly over the line.  The command really did what it had to do in splitting the baby by disciplining him in a way that wouldn't matter for shit once he retired, but at the same time showing that it wasn't going to just turn a blind eye either, because that would have gotten out of control faster than a fire on a lake of gasoline. 

He took his lumps for it like a man, and for that he deserves our deepest respect, not blame from one side or excuse-making from the other.  Doing what you know has to be done, even knowing it probably isn't going to work out that great for you personally, is a critical part of being a military leader.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Didn't they all vote Jenga Khan for President in 2004?

[true_blood]

Go Col West. Screw the DUmmies/libs and their anti-American, anti-military views.

[Tess Anderson]

this on Veterans' Day? Guess it's never a day not to bash a black conservative for them.

[blitzkrieg_17]

Col. West did his job, and showed more balls than most GOP congressman. So it's sort of fitting he is one now.

[diesel driver]

Anybody who treats jihadist like the animals they are and makes them crap in their turbins is OK in my book!

[JohnnyReb]

Hell, what are they fussing about. There has been a Dishonorably Discharged democrat traitor senator in the senate for 30+ years.

I hope Col. West displays the same courage and get-R-done attitude in congress that he showed on the battle field.

[Vagabond]

As I recall he received an Article 15 for it, which although a black mark for one's military record, does not count as a conviction of any sort as far as DOJ is concerned once you leave service.  He basically admitted his actions, which were clearly over the line.  The command really did what it had to do in splitting the baby by disciplining him in a way that wouldn't matter for shit once he retired, but at the same time showing that it wasn't going to just turn a blind eye either, because that would have gotten out of control faster than a fire on a lake of gasoline. 

He took his lumps for it like a man, and for that he deserves our deepest respect, not blame from one side or excuse-making from the other.  Doing what you know has to be done, even knowing it probably isn't going to work out that great for you personally, is a critical part of being a military leader.

He also later said it was the wrong thing to do.  One of his friends happened to be the JAG lawyer who briefs service members and civilians that go through the CRC at Fort Benning, GA prior to deployment regarding military law and used LTC West's example in the briefing.  That being said, his actions on that night were not war crimes.

As MSS said, how can they support somebody like John Kerrys, who claims to have burned down villages and shot wounded enemies

[TheSarge]

While serving in Taji, Iraq, on August 20, 2003, as commander of the 2d Battalion, 20th Field Artillery Regiment, Lieutenant Colonel West was in charge of an interrogation of a civilian Iraqi police officer who was suspected of having pertinent information regarding attacks on American soldiers in the area. Interrogators had learned that the detainee had information about a planned ambush. When the interrogators were unable to extract the needed important information for some time, LTC West was asked to come try to obtain the important information. As the detainee continued to hold back the information, LTC West fired his pistol past the detainee's head into a clearing barrel, frightening (but not physically harming) the detainee and getting him to finally give the information. According to Lt. Col. West's sworn statement,[6] the detainee informed West that:

[The attack] was to occur Friday morning in Saba al Boor vicinity of the police station by positioned snipers supposedly being brought in from Fallujah. [The detainee] was to ID my vehicle and myself for these rooftop firers. We took this information and the following day established flask CPs and used AH-64s overhead. There was no attack and no further attacks have emanated from the town since the apprehension of [the detainee] and his named associates.

****ing primitive hypocrites!  If LTC West hadn't done what he did and saved the lives of his soldiers as well as his own...you've have been screaming for him to get a courts martial for incompetnece.

[Vagabond]

While serving in Taji, Iraq, on August 20, 2003, as commander of the 2d Battalion, 20th Field Artillery Regiment, Lieutenant Colonel West was in charge of an interrogation of a civilian Iraqi police officer who was suspected of having pertinent information regarding attacks on American soldiers in the area. Interrogators had learned that the detainee had information about a planned ambush. When the interrogators were unable to extract the needed important information for some time, LTC West was asked to come try to obtain the important information. As the detainee continued to hold back the information, LTC West fired his pistol past the detainee's head into a clearing barrel, frightening (but not physically harming) the detainee and getting him to finally give the information. According to Lt. Col. West's sworn statement,[6] the detainee informed West that:
 



****ing primitive hypocrites!  If LTC West hadn't done what he did and saved the lives of his soldiers as well as his own...you've have been screaming for him to get a courts martial for incompetnece.

On one hand, they want the body count.  The only time they give a flying **** about US service members is when some benchmark on the number of deaths happens to be set.  At least that is the way it was when Bush was in charge.  With Obama being the head cheese, they now couldn't care less.

On the other hand, there had to be another way.  Knowledge of the attack would have been enough to set up Flask CPs and put AH-64s overhead. 

I don't demean congressman elect West's courage or character in anyway.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Tex, you know damned well they only care about military casualties when a Democrat is President...and even then, not really.   

[TheSarge]

Tex, you know damned well they only care about military casualties when a Democrat is President...and even then, not really.   

Yeah I know.  But what gets me is that stance they take where they always can end up on the side pointing the finger.  They've have bashed LTC West no matter how he handled that situation. 

Like The Godfather says...Liberalism means being able to take any side of an argument so that you are never wrong.  Which is what the DUmmies do on everything.

[ColonialMarine0431]

Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel.

After which the detainee sang like a bird.

Apparently not knowing where West’s gun was aimed, Hamoody cracked and gave information about the planned ambush on West’s convoy, thwarting the attack.

West said there were no further ambushes on U.S. forces in Taji until he was relieved of his leadership post on October 4.

SOURCE


I love how libTURDs are so selective in their data. Of course, to bolster their argument they omitted the relevant: that West's actions saved lives.

[true_blood]

War Criminal?! Really DUmmies?
You people have not a clue about reality, do you? Here's this man, that risked his life for our freedoms and safety from these terrorists subhumans and you call him the war criminal?! Get a clue you goons.

[ColonialMarine0431]

DUmmies should be forced to read the DoD releases of American Servicemen killed in the WOT that come out almost every other day ...

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1047-10
November 13, 2010
DoD Identifies Army Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Cpl. Shawn D. Fannin, 32, of Wheelersburg, Ohio, died Nov. 12 in Mazar-e Sharif, Afghanistan in a non-combat related incident. He was assigned to the 404th Aviation Support Battalion, 4th Combat Aviation Brigade, Fort Hood, Texas.
______________________________________________
IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1046-10
November 13, 2010
DOD Identifies Air Force Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of an Airman who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Senior Airman Andrew S. Bubacz, 23, of Dalzell, S. C., died Nov. 12 in Nuristan, Afghanistan.  He was assigned to the 97th Communications Squadron, Altus Air Force Base, Okla.

______________________________________________
IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1039-10
November 12, 2010
DOD Identifies Marine Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Lance Cpl. Dakota R. Huse, 19, of Greenwood, La., died Nov. 9 while conducting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan.  He was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 9th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C.


 Etc, etc...

DoD

[Wretched Excess]

we need to advertise for human shields in the hometowns of these idiots.  "Excellent Benefits!  Call Now".  I volunteer to fly a few of them over myself.