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Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« on: October 30, 2010, 06:51:46 PM »
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Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
      

I really like my Mac. I find I get more work done and I enjoy using it more. But, when I think about it Windows has actually come a long ways also. Even that is a very good product, if you need certain capabilities. On consumer goods, the private sectors does seem to put out things people want to buy.

Lets create a world in which our society is actually socialist. I am not talking about Tea Party socialist, I am talking about real socialist meaning there is common ownership (Government Ownership) of the means of production and allocation of resources. In that sort of system, is there anyway that consumer goods could be of the same quality as the private sector currently provides? If that is possible, how would it work?

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Other then some rah rah oh yeah responses am betting you will not get much for an answer.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2010, 06:57:50 PM »
Hey Brent, how many Soviet TVs and computers do you see being used anymore.  :thatsright:
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 07:29:04 PM »
Silly me, I always thought competition provided good quality products, if it was left up to the Government how could they produce a good product if there wasn't competition?
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 07:41:14 PM »
Quote from: Mike220 on October 30, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Hey Brent, how many Soviet TVs and computers do you see being used anymore.  :thatsright:

This reminds me of something I saw in the paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all.

There was a household where an East-German-made coffee percolator went bad.

The father, a product of socialist benevolence, was a handyman by circumstances, not by choice.

I went with him to one of those open-air "markets," thinking he was going to get another coffee percolator.

Instead, he bought an East-German-made bread toaster, and because it didn't work, he jawed down the price.

I had no idea what he wanted with a busted bread toaster; his wife needed a coffee percolator.

Back again at home, he took a couple of parts from the bread toaster and installed them in the nonworking coffee percolator.

After which the coffee percolator percolated again.

In case one isn't aware, East-German-made goods were superior to Soviet-made goods.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2010, 08:02:20 PM »
What exactly is the point of making Apple government owned? I don't even get what he's arguing for. Worker ownership?
Also, what is a tea party socialist?
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 09:16:43 PM »
NO.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2010, 09:18:30 PM »
If you want to wait for your Mac's vacuum tubes to warm up, and enjoy playing Pong on it, yeah, it would be shuper aweshome!  :whatever:
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 09:16:19 AM »
I read this somewhere, it may be a joke, but I'll go ahead with it anyway.

A brothel in NV came under Government control due to some tax issues or something like that.  The government took it over "lock, stock, and barrel", and decided to run it themselves to recoup some of their lost tax revenue.

The brothel also had a bar, so the government figured this was a win-win situation that couldn't go wrong.

Long story short, brothel went bankrupt, government lost even more money, and shut everything down.

SO, even if they are selling p***y and liquor, the government will still screw it up!
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 09:46:55 AM »
I think it's a joke, but if the liberals can use 'fake but accurate', I'll take it.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 09:52:06 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on October 31, 2010, 09:16:19 AM
I read this somewhere, it may be a joke, but I'll go ahead with it anyway.

A brothel in NV came under Government control due to some tax issues or something like that.  The government took it over "lock, stock, and barrel", and decided to run it themselves to recoup some of their lost tax revenue.

The brothel also had a bar, so the government figured this was a win-win situation that couldn't go wrong.

Long story short, brothel went bankrupt, government lost even more money, and shut everything down.

SO, even if they are selling p***y and liquor, the government will still screw it up!

Yeah, that really did happen.

Apparently it was the best-known, most famous, whorehouse in Nevada.

They got into trouble with the IRS.

The government ran the business into the ground.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 09:53:29 AM »
I'm thinking one channel radio's and one channel TV's that only report on the wheat crop and the roughest toilet paper man could devise.

The very thoughts of government doing a better job at anything just sandpapers my a$$....which brought up thoughts of government made toilet paper....which would save a lot of trees because like most government paperwork...it wouldn't be fit to wipe your A$$ on.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 10:23:57 AM »
First off in a Socialist society there would be no Apple Computer Corp.

Instead there would be one bloated system forced on everyone that only worked right half the time and was continually crashing and incompatible with older equipment.

You know...like Windows.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2010, 11:39:16 AM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on October 31, 2010, 10:23:57 AM
First off in a Socialist society there would be no Apple Computer Corp.

Instead there would be one bloated system forced on everyone that only worked right half the time and was continually crashing and incompatible with older equipment.

You know...like Windows.

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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2010, 12:36:47 PM »
I can't tell if this idiot is serious or being a bit tounge in cheek.

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4. The internet you put that Apple computer on was developed by government..
 You might recall that Al Gore invented it.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2010, 12:57:03 PM »
Quote from: tuolumnejim on October 31, 2010, 12:36:47 PM
I can't tell if this idiot is serious or being a bit tounge in cheek.
 

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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2010, 02:07:03 PM »
An appeal to give Apple to the government?

I think we just found Bill Gates' mole.
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2010, 03:30:04 PM »
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...Lets create a world in which our society is actually socialist. I am not talking about Tea Party socialist, I am talking about real socialist meaning there is common ownership (Government Ownership) of the means of production and allocation of resources. In that sort of system, is there anyway that consumer goods could be of the same quality as the private sector currently provides? If that is possible, how would it work?

Perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain what you perceive as the differences between "Real Socialist" and "Tea Party Socialist"?

(get out the magnifier that you normally use for whacking off so that you can see that hair to split it, DUmbshit.)
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2010, 04:02:36 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 31, 2010, 09:52:06 AM
Yeah, that really did happen.

Apparently it was the best-known, most famous, whorehouse in Nevada.

They got into trouble with the IRS.

The government ran the business into the ground.

Ah yes the Mustang Ranch. Interesting book out about it.

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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2010, 08:18:50 PM »
I love this post it's so chock full o' FAIL!!!
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Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?   (Ummm,,,........NO! Never!)
     
I really like my Mac. I find I get more work done and I enjoy using it more. But, when I think about it Windows has actually come a long ways also. Even that is a very good product, if you need certain capabilities. On consumer goods, the private sectors does seem to put out things people want to buy.       (Yes. The private sector does create EXCELLENT products. Gubberment should stay away!)

Lets create a world in which our society is actually socialist.   (We are on that path with your leader, the lord zero. You will come to eat those eat words one day.)
I am not talking about Tea Party socialist, I am talking about real socialist meaning there is common ownership (Government Ownership) of the means of production and allocation of resources.   ("Tea Party socialist"?! Care to elaborate?!? :mental:)
In that sort of system, is there anyway that consumer goods could be of the same quality as the private sector currently provides? If that is possible, how would it work?    (It wouldn't work, just like your post. A FAIL!)
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Re: Could the Government run Apple Computers and produce as good of a product?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 10:17:03 AM »
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Yeah, that really did happen.

Apparently it was the best-known, most famous, whorehouse in Nevada.

They got into trouble with the IRS.

The government ran the business into the ground.



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