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Redstone  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 06:31 PM
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So how come it's "portuguese" (with two Us), but "Portugal" (with only one U)?

I've never understood that.

(Just the kind of useless thing a manic brain like mine seizes on now and again.)

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BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 06:34 PM
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1. It signifies that the G is hard, which would be less clear without the u.   

The spelling is borrowed from Portuguese.

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Redstone  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 06:35 PM
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2. It signifies that the **what** is hard? The second U?

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BurtWorm  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 06:39 PM
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3. G 

Sorry. Typing this on an iPhone. I repeat, that the g is hard.

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Redstone  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 06:42 PM
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4. Aha. Thank you. I had not known that about that language.

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Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:16 PM
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7. G is soft before a, o, u, but hard before e, i.

Just as in Spanish, a 'u' is inserted before e, or i, to make them soft but then the 'u' becomes silent.

If the 'u' is to be sounded, it is marked with a dieresis.

That is why words like güero (blondie) have the umlaut or dieresis.

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Tuesday Afternoon  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:33 PM
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8. How then, would one pronounce Portugual ...? 

what does that second "u" do in this case?

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Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:39 PM
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9. Yes, the second 'u' would be sounded in that case cacophonically.

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Tuesday Afternoon  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:49 PM
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12. like this... 

Port-u-gu-al

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Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:51 PM
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15. Exactly!

You have it right.

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Tuesday Afternoon  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:58 PM
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16. ok, thanks. Wanted to make sure I understood.

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petronius  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 07:43 PM
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10. Did you mean that the other way around? Portuguese and guero are pronounced with the hard 'g', but without the 'u' it would be soft? If 'g' is hard before 'e', why is the 'u' needed?

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Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 07:46 PM
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11. No, I have it right

Portugese would be pronounced as if spelt Portukhese. Guttural, half way between an x and hacking a loogie.

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petronius  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 08:08 PM
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17. Oh, I guess a hard g is harder than I thought. I think of hard g as 'guh', and soft g as 'jeh'. So the guh-like sound in Portuguese is actually a soft g?

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Xipe Totec  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 08:12 PM
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18. Yes. The hard G is closer to H as in Herbert, Soft G is like G in Geese

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petronius  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 08:31 PM
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19. Interesting, I've learned a new thing today

Thanks!

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Bucky  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 09:28 PM
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20. Is that why it's called the G-spot? Because it's hard next to U, but soft next to I?

After which Chief S itting Bull essays to explain Finnish, and tries to learn Korean.
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 01:45:24 PM »
Someone said "hard" and all the gay dudes came running to help out.
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 01:52:51 PM »
What a complete waste of band width!
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 02:01:55 PM »
Isn't Port-u-gal (with the extra hard G) where Twitboy -- er, I mean Twixvoy -- defected?
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2010, 02:09:49 PM »
What a complete waste of band width!

Well, if one wishes to see wasted brain waves, look at Chief S itting Bull again:

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5. Why do people misspell Finland all the time?
   
Sue me.

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6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.

Geezuz, Chief S itting Bull lacks something in the upstairs department.

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KamaAina  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Tue Oct-05-10 07:50 PM
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14. It's a groaner pun
   
The name of Finland in Finnish, as shown on their hockey uniforms for instance, is "Suomi".
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2010, 02:23:25 PM »
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6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.

I wonder how DO they misspell it?

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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2010, 02:56:36 PM »
GET A ****ING JOB. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 03:31:54 PM »
GET A ****ING JOB. 

What capitalist in his right mind would????????????
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2010, 03:35:00 PM »
If this means they're going to move to Brazil, I'm all for it.
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2010, 03:38:04 PM »
If this means they're going to move to Brazil, I'm all for it.

Don't you and I both wish.....
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2010, 03:44:10 PM »
Don't you and I both wish.....

As long as the boat sinks on the way! I wouldn't wish these pukes on my worst enemy! Brazil has enough problems without addin' these asshats into the mix!
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
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Bucky  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 09:28 PM
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20. Is that why it's called the G-spot? Because it's hard next to U, but soft next to I?


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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 10:06:14 PM »
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6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.


You missed one.  :-)

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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 10:16:06 PM »
Between Atman in Thailand and Redstone in Brazil, those young boys will have nowhere to hide.  :censored:
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 10:34:14 PM »
Between Atman in Thailand and Redstone in Brazil, those young boys will have nowhere to hide.  :censored:

They're already lost in Uranus!!!
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 10:47:01 PM »
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6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
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Re: Chief S itting Bull, other primitives, trying to learn Portuguese
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2010, 10:51:56 PM »
"Hell is full of good wishes and desires"~St. Bernhard of Clairvaux

"Brave men are found where brave men are honored."~Aristotle

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