Bobbo thankful

[dandi]

When I first read the title, I thought maybe some people had called their congressman on Bobbo's behalf to keep her from being "purged" from the disability rolls.

Turns out she's basically thanking the people who posted in her threads without calling her on her bullshit:

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-30-10 07:26 PM
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A big DU Thank You to the DU members who really came through!
   
Several DU members who posted in my thread on SSI and SSDI terminations really showed their support and I wanted to take this opportunity express the sense of gratitude their responses engendered.


In yesterday's thread about the increasing terminations of people on disability, there was significant progress made.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Following is a brief run-down of the suggestions and research.

I want to thank scarletwoman first and foremost for adding this issue to her campaign against the demolition of Social Security. Those of us on the bottom rungs of this issue are usually forgotten, and the suffering is immense. Thank you, scarletwoman, for your activism to put us in the focus of your effort!

Thank you to DJ13 for "Exhibit A"
Said it perfectly.
Coburn quoted a book, “The Tragedy of American Compassion,” which he said “talks about how we used to care for everyone who needs our help.” Now everyone relies on the government, he said.
“SSDI has been so monkeyed and maneuvered, fully half the people on it are not truly disabled,” Coburn said, referring to the Social Security Disability Insurance program. I want to help people who are fully disabled, but we have created dependency. And I agree on the drug testing.”
http://muskogeephoenix.com/local/x329608417/Coburn-Hold...


Thank you again to DJ13 for "Exhibit B"
Posted by Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall at 4:09 pm, August 25, 2010
Useless Eaters: the Stigmatization of Health Problems
Posted by Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall on @ 4:09 pm
Article printed from speakeasy: http://blogs.alternet.org/refugee
URL to article: http://blogs.alternet.org/refugee/2010/08/25/useless-ea... /

As a psychiatrist battling the stigma of mental illness for more than 30 years, I am gratified by growing public awareness that that schizophrenia, depression and bipolar disorder run in families and are, at least partly, biologically determined. Thankfully the days when it was socially acceptable to blame depressives for being lazy or not doing enough to help themselves are long gone.

I wish I could say the same of physical illness which, after all, is basic to human existence. The US, unquestionably, has the most reactionary and punitive attitude towards illness in the world. It comes out in all manner of regressive and inhumane government policy: the federal government’s absolute refusal to make sick and parental leave mandatory (as it is in all other industrialized societies), the pressure for long term recipients of Social Security disability benefits to undergo continual review and mandatory treatment (which most have no way of paying for, as doctors have stopped accepting Medicare and Medicaid), as well strong pressure on doctors to declare them well enough to work; and now a proposal to change eligibility for Social Security retirement to make the elderly “prove” they are too sick to work.

The Growing Attack on Entitlements

In the growing attack – by Republicans and Democrats – on entitlements, there are always assertions – either direct or implied – that sick people are somehow responsible for the problems that make them unable to work. However what troubles me even more is the way so many Americans have internalized these attitudes – how ready they are blame people who get sick on eating the wrong food, not exercising or not managing stress properly. Epidemiological studies show clearly this is not the case – lifestyle factors only account for 10 percent of what causes us to become ill.

There is no question that the US has parted company with the rest of the world on this. I think it’s important to ask why. Quite frankly I hear a lot of discussion that is ominously reminiscent of Hitler’s “useless eaters” initiative. And I think it’s time to ask whether this is simply “coincidence” – an accident of history – or if there are more sinister reasons why this might be............


I want to thank Silver Swan for "Exhibit C", the 2010 Social Security Trustees Report.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OACT/TR/2010/V_programati...
As she said, "It mentions that disability terminations are expected to increase through 2018 because SSA will be working through a large backlog of continuing disability reviews."


I want to thank pinto for "Exhibit D"
The OASDI report projects an increase in terminations from 9.1 / 1,000 to 11.6 / 1,000.
This is through 2019, for "recovery" from disability. The "recovery rate" tracks disability benefits terminated due to a review of initial medical determinations
The age-sex- adjusted recovery rate under the intermediate assumptions is assumed to rise from a relatively low level of 9.1 per thousand beneficiaries in 2009 (reflecting temporarily lower levels of continuing disability reviews) to 11.6 per thousand beneficiaries by 2019.
This is a projected increase of 2.5 terminations per 1,000 beneficiaries over ten years


*snipped here out of compassion for my fellow CCers*


This is a great beginning for taking action on this issue that is definitely desperate. Thanks to all the DUers who put together so much in such a short time! If I have left anyone out, apologies, and please let me know by PM.

I look forward to taking the next step with this project, and hope we can affect some real change!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9046102

People who provide real-world advice and suggestions to the poor get the back of Bobbo's hand. People who kiss her ass, wring their hands over her and post a bunch of meaningless anecdotes get a "Congratulations! We Did It!" thread.

TheKentuckian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-30-10 07:34 PM
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1. Thank you bobbolink for having the courage to keep these issues in our minds
   
and the strength of will to keep pushing this boulder up a step hill.

DJ13  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-30-10 07:43 PM
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4. Thanks for your tireless efforts bobbolink
   
K&R!

Yes, ranting on DU about how no one cares about her can be very trying.

laughingliberal  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Aug-30-10 08:12 PM
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8. K & R for keeping poverty visible nt

Despite the best efforts of Fascist traffic cops to tow her house.

Oh yeah:

I want to thank pinto for "Exhibit D"
The OASDI report projects an increase in terminations from 9.1 / 1,000 to 11.6 / 1,000.
This is through 2019, for "recovery" from disability. The "recovery rate" tracks disability benefits terminated due to a review of initial medical determinations
The age-sex- adjusted recovery rate under the intermediate assumptions is assumed to rise from a relatively low level of 9.1 per thousand beneficiaries in 2009 (reflecting temporarily lower levels of continuing disability reviews) to 11.6 per thousand beneficiaries by 2019.
This is a projected increase of 2.5 terminations per 1,000 beneficiaries over ten years

A "projected increase of 2.5 terminations per 1,000 beneficiaries over ten years" is evidence of a "purge"? 

 

[Carl]

Lurking DUmmies,she is a mole,likely an inside one taunting you.
Open your eyes and wake up.

[IassaFTots]

If only she channeled the energy it took to compile that post into writing a resume............

[thundley4]

Lurking DUmmies,she is a mole,likely an inside one taunting you.
Open your eyes and wake up.

I think she's likely a self employed, well-to-do person who sits in their luxury office thinking of ways to twist the DUmmies into knots.

[USA4ME]

My fellow CCers; you do realize that Bobo exists because of us, right?  Until we stated highlighting her insane ramblings, she was a virtual nobody on Skin's island.  We created her and made her into what she is today.  Had we never brought her to light, she'd still be a nobody on the island.  She isn't the only one we've done this to.  I guarantee you we can pick certain primitives, highlight them, and cause them to rise to the top of the primitive pecking order just by virtue of pointing out how stupid they are.

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[DumbAss Tanker]

But for the fact that most of the DUmmies really are so witless as to think that their 'Activism' could possibly have any effect whatsoever on an SSA determination in an individual case in an undisclosed region, this could pass for sarcasm moling of the highest subtlety.

[BlueStateSaint]

But for the fact that most of the DUmmies really are so witless as to think that their 'Activism' could possibly have any effect whatsoever on an SSA determination in an individual case in an undisclosed region, this could pass for sarcasm moling of the highest subtlety.

So, then . . . Bobbo the Hobo is your mole?  Genius!

[DumbAss Tanker]

So, then . . . Bobbo the Hobo is your mole?  Genius!

I can neither confirm nor deny that any such material is stored at or has transited this location.   :innocent:

But seriously, if she's a mole, whoever is operating her is far too clever and subtle to blow the op by boasting about it or even hinting at it in a thread, though he or she would probably be tempted to contribute to spinning up the speculation from the sidelines.

[PatriotGame]

My fellow CCers; you do realize that Bobo exists because of us, right?  Until we stated highlighting her insane ramblings, she was a virtual nobody on Skin's island.  We created her and made her into what she is today.  Had we never brought her to light, she'd still be a nobody on the island.  She isn't the only one we've done this to.  I guarantee you we can pick certain primitives, highlight them, and cause them to rise to the top of the primitive pecking order just by virtue of pointing out how stupid they are.

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BUTT... Is that so bad?? 

[true_blood]

Lurking DUmmies,she is a mole,likely an inside one taunting you.
Open your eyes and wake up.

It will take a while. Libs/progressives lack common sense!

[JohnnyReb]

Thanks to BoBo, I'm in the market for a few Buick Skylarks to rent out....but unfortunately all I've found so far have sagging headliners.

[AllosaursRus]

If bobo is a mole, she's in cahoots with a coupla others. I recall a thread where some wench from Boulder, Hippyville, the armpit of CO, sent her kids to give the homeless one some help and they were resoundingly slapped down for their efforts.

Bobo even cursed the mother out for sharing her info and accused her of stalking.

So if she's a mole, she must have incorporated!

[delilahmused]

A couple of things from the articles she posted caught my eye:

Coburn quoted a book, “The Tragedy of American Compassion,” which he said “talks about how we used to care for everyone who needs our help.” Now everyone relies on the government, he said.

She might ask herself WHY that is. She should also note that CONSERVATIVES give more in charitable donations than the left (even the uber-rich left who I bet give more to their pet political power groups than compassionate causes).

MANY have offered Bobbo REAL help. Everything from money to some kind of advocacy to very sound advice. Many have asked for more information (it's hard for anyone to know how to help unless they know the reasons SSDI was terminated) so they can know better how to help. These ALWAYS turn into angry tirades of Bobbo being insulted. One can only come to the conclusion she doesn't really want help, she wants to wallow in her misery while her fellow DU'er pat her on the back and tell her what a brave little victim she is.

Useless Eaters: the Stigmatization of Health Problems

As a psychiatrist battling the stigma of mental illness for more than 30 years, I am gratified by growing public awareness that that schizophrenia, depression and bipolar disorder run in families and are, at least partly, biologically determined. Thankfully the days when it was socially acceptable to blame depressives for being lazy or not doing enough to help themselves are long gone.

Only if you let it be, but obviously I just don't have the same problem as DUmmies because I've never been stigmatized, either. It's a problem to be dealt with. Some people have high blood pressure, or hypothyroidism, or an auto-immune disease. I happen to have bipolar disorder. We all just take our meds and get on with our lives. But, hey, if I ever start to feel victimized or neglected I promise to start ranting and raving and  calling y'all meanies in a thread on "Cryin' in my Beer".

Cindie