http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8900483Oh my.
Scruffy1 (306 posts) Sat Aug-07-10 10:36 PM
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It Ain't working
I rarely post on DU even though I read it everyday and have to give some credit to some of the best there is who constantly inform and entertain me with their posts. I have watched the attitude shift with the massive fail of the Obama administration. I say massive fail because the core of our problems as a nation have not been addressed to the degree necessary for a better society. It seems like the best we can hope for is to be a little better off off economically and socially.
Having just returned from the Gulf of Mexico, NOLA, Mississippi, and East Saint Louis I can see the changes and failures of over 40 years. The ninth ward is still almost deserted with search signs on the empty houses and East St. Louis is a ghost town. In my own city of Minneapolis youth and minority unemployment is at record highs. It reminds me of 1968 when the ghettos went up in smoke and the promises were made for jobs. It is clear to me that the government of the US and the capitalist masters have no intention of living up to their social contract. The basic deal has always been that the masters of the universe have been able to rape, pillage and plunder as long as they provided decent jobs for the majority of the people or at least enough to stop the rioting.
Only in America would the slight improvement of health care insurance, giving people who already have jobs some money to buy a house or car could be considered a great improvements. Are our expectations that low?
The basic non-negotiable demands for all progressive should be simple. A job for everyone that wants one and health care for all. Anything less is nothing at all.
Do not get the idea that I am blaming Barack Obama for this fail. He just has to take what he can get and go around to the side door. The bankers and corporations get the first pick.
Hmmmm.
New Orleans, St. Louis, and Minneapolis.....
Aren't those places that have been run by corrupt Republican party machines for generations now?
Newsjock (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 10:44 PM
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2. I disagree
It's working exactly as planned. And that's even more depressing.
RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 10:47 PM
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5. Well said. Sad, but true. I have a lot of trepidation about the future, because I see the same failed economic system patched, ban-aided and anesthetized to a certain extent, but the core problems remain. Obama inherited a horrible situation and changing the momentum of a failed greedy economic system might be more than even the president can do. It's easier to take something down like the Bush years, but much harder IMO to build a system back up. Additionally, IMO, this failed economy started with Reagen.
As compared with the wonderful economy of the Incompetent One 1977-1981?
Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 11:05 PM
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7. The solution is simple enough
When you have the worst economy since 1932, then you better respond like the guy in 1933 did.
Obama had the opportunity and a MANDATE FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE to be another FDR. That is what this country needed and still needs.
Instead, he went the Clinton retread DLC route. And this country will NEVER recover using those worthless Repuke economic policies. No matter what shiny wrapper and false "reform" label they put on them.
MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 11:07 PM
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8. If things were as simple as just making it happen we would live in a perfect country.
The government was thoroughly broken by *GW Bush, smashed to smitherines. It took 30 years of Republican led Congresses led by Newt and others, and then 8 years of *GW Bush to break the government. Every government organization has been tainted with idiots whose sole purpose was to destroy it so it didn't function.
Yet, all I see as of late are people that expected all of the travesties, all of the corruption and the rebuilding of the government so it can function get completed and fixed in 18 months.
In that 18 months he has gotten us 2 left of center Supreme Court Justices which is critical.
Many expect miracles of one man but why are the many not hammering the Senate and spineless Harry Reid, remember there are 3 Branches of government and we have over 300 bills stopped at the Senate's door because of the Republicans. If Harry Reid wins he better put forth that the Filibuster days are over when the new session begins.
Many blame him for the lack of jobs, does he directly hire Americans? No Corporations do, and it's a fact that they are sitting on profits and not hiring people. The large banks are not lending money to small businesses......how is that President Obama's fault?
Maybe if we direct our anger toward the right targets and not a convenient target maybe we will see the additional changes we want to see.
President Obama has accomplished more than any other president in the last 30 years yet many conveniently overlook those accomplishments.
Quitters never win and winners never quit...remember that saying.....I am not quitting in my support of President Obama, I am not going to cry in my milk when things aren't going my way. That's life, we will win some and we will lose some. But we keep moving forward and in that process we don't destroy each other, we support each other.
Note: I think we all need to Vote in November and gain more Senate seats so we can get some things done.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 11:15 PM
DOUG'S STUPID EX-WIFE, #03 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
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11. The lack of jobs is squarely at Obama's door because he has not made it a priority to use his influence to get jobs created. Whether by federal program or any other way. Yes, he is at fault for that.
izquierdista (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-08-10 12:11 AM
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13. The answer hidden in the middle...
"The large banks are not lending money to small businesses......how is that President Obama's fault?"
If you don't see it as Obama's fault, then you have admitted that he has no power over the large banks. That in itself tells you who is running the country and who is there for appearances.
midnight (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 11:11 PM
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9. I was in Minneapolis last weekend. I was walking down Grand with left over food from the Local and this man walked right up to me and asked if he could have my food. I gave him everything. We have got to end this. Hungry people, homeless people, or people being left behind via medical reform. We can do better than this.
Scruffy1 (306 posts) Sun Aug-08-10 05:27 AM
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19. That really bothers me
When I first came to Minneapolis over forty years ago no one went hungry here and everyone could find work if they wanted. The Democratic Farmer-Labor Party was still run by Humphrey. We were proud of our state and now its just been a race to the bottom. We got an 800 million dollar ball park for a billionaire and I dodge potholes to get to my job. At least I have a job and can help out a few, but after two years of fighting foreclosures and watching politicians scurry like rats when confronted with the banksters, I realize its going to take a lot more than getting arrested a few timers to get anything done for the people.
liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-07-10 11:20 PM
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12. How do threads like this get so many recommendations?
On a site dedicated to supporting Democrats?
Lost4words (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-08-10 12:15 AM
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14. because its the truth! But some how you dont see it!
things going that well for you???
Mimosa (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-08-10 04:36 AM
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17. Many of us are in trouble and the President and Congress did not help us
A major jobs program and single payer or expanded Medicare would have kept many people from slipping deeper into financial desperation.But no real effort was made to help us. After the election programs to help people could have been promoted and people were ready for something new.
The D.U. members who support the status quo are probably financially secure. They don't wake up feeling extreme anxiety every day, tearing at their hair, worrying about trying to pay $900 a month health insurance premiums or whether they should drop health insurance. They don't worry whether they'll be able to hang on to their homes, hoping that they can just try to maintain until things get better.
And billions go out every month for the wars in the Middle East. When our people come home -IF our people are brought home- what are they going to do for jobs? Has that been addressed?
havocmom (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-08-10 12:24 AM
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15. Because some of us Democrats STILL think the party should support the people and not just expect the people to support them with no loyalty returned.
Sorry, but the party needs to stop taking the base for granted and pissing on the principles we hold dear. WE are the party, not the pols who have become so insulated they do not see the reality of America the OP so well illustrated.
Sorry, if illustrations of the realities of life in America hurts, perhaps it's time to address reality! The party needs to show some values instead of kissing fat cat ass and shitting on others.
Scruffy1 (306 posts) Sun Aug-08-10 05:15 AM
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18. I've been a democrat for over forty tears.
But this ain't my fathers democratic party when it is run by corporate multimillionaires. More liek another branch of the Republicans.
I've been a democrat for over forty tears.NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-08-10 03:58 AM
THE OLD SOT BAG
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16. Congratulations!!!
You managed to include all of the usual talking points in one, easy-to-read OP!!!
Call NOW!!! Operators are standing by!!!
LawnKorn (330 posts) Sun Aug-08-10 06:32 AM
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20. President Obama's Administration has done what?
President Obama has done a few things:
Passed comprehensive Health Care for the first time ever
Passed comprehensive Financial Reform
Successfully had confirmed two Supreme Court Justices on the first round
Prevented the worst economic crisis in the last 80 years from turning into the worst Depression ever
Convinced British Petroleum to make good on its commitments in the Gulf - without an argument
And yet he fails because of the actions of Republican administrations over the last 40 years?
I seems to me that President Obama is correcting the core problems given to us by Ronald Reagan and idiot son Bush.
Oh my.
