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TalkingDog  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 06:11 AM
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To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18- 42 to perform national service
   


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5741


To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8823249

Big surprise the dems are still trying to implement the draft.

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proteus_lives  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 06:13 AM
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1. You want Iraq and Afghanistan over and done with?
   
This is probably the only way.

Unless your number comes up then it isn't such a good idea.

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ejpoeta  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 07:22 AM
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9. the only caveat i think would be if there are children involved. one of the parents should be
   
able to stay home with the kids. of course i know this is currently not the case with both parents enlisted today, but they are volunteers.... and i still think that should be the case currently. a parent should be able to stay home. and if there is one parent only, then they should be able to stay and work on the base. just sayin.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-27-10 08:07 AM
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32. Why?
   
The people that we are bombing can't isolate their children, husbands, daughters,sons or wifes from the bombs. People will abhor war when they have to give up what they value most.

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pnwmom  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 07:45 AM
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19. 50,000 soldiers died in Vietnam AFTER the draft was put into effect.
   
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 07:46 AM by pnwmom
The draft didn't hinder the war efforts; all it did was provide more cannon fodder.

The whole justification for getting rid of the draft after Vietnam was to prevent another war from going on that many years and killing that many of our soldiers. Can't we ever learn from history?

Dummies never learn from anything much less history.

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xchrom  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 06:28 AM
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3. It took these illegal wars to get me to change my mind
   
About the draft.

The volunteer army makes it too
Easy to abuse at the off set.

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Fumesucker  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 06:31 AM
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4. I'm over 45 and I think this is a GREAT idea..
   
:eyes:

Chicken hawk.

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Warren Stupidity  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 08:24 AM
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38. bootcamp is bootcamp
   
nazi bootcamp was pretty much identical to american bootcamp

Yeah I recall all the classes on why we hate the jooooossss and stuff like that.  :mental:

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pnwmom  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 07:50 AM
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21. The next President could be Sarah Palin. Still think required national service is a good idea? n/t

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
That would be funny as hell if Palin drafted the goons at DU but, I doubt she would try to weaken our military by filling the ranks with pot smoking cheeto munchers. Besides most of DUmmyland has self diagnosed mental illness anyway.

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pnwmom  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 08:01 AM
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30. We're already handing our young people the problem of global warming.
   
The likelihood that they'll never get from Social Security what they'll have to put into it.

Massive budget deficits.

And now we're going to require national service of them, too?

Sure, that would be a great tactic if we want to push the younger generation into the arms of the Republicans.

Damn those republicans for these conditions. Oh wait the dems own the govt for the moment.

I don't think we have much to worry about on this anyway soon Charlie will be either in jail or retired.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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It went nowhere before, it's going nowhere now.

Funny how the DUmmies all assume it means only military service, which has rather modest manpower needs compared to the labor pool compulsory national service would make available.  It would basically cost immensely more than any benefit, since the pay would have to be minimum wage or better for all of the nonmilitary jpbs (Which would be 90% of the intake) and provide a huge surplus of unskilled/semiskilled manual laborers for an economy that uses as little of it as possible due to the inherent high overhead and inefficiency involved.
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Good ol' Charlie--just can't get any traction at all.

I wonder what the DUmmies would say when they realize that less than 30 percent of the 18-24 age group can meet the minimum standards for military service...mental, moral, physical.

Poor dumb bastards.  Go back and fire up the bong and have some more Cheetos.  You're safe for now, assclowns.  Your betters will do the heavy lifting for you, worry not.
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ejpoeta  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Jul-27-10 07:22 AM
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9. the only caveat i think would be if there are children involved. one of the parents should be
   
able to stay home with the kids. of course i know this is currently not the case with both parents enlisted today, but they are volunteers.... and i still think that should be the case currently. a parent should be able to stay home. and if there is one parent only, then they should be able to stay and work on the base. just sayin.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-27-10 08:07 AM
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32. Why?
   
The people that we are bombing can't isolate their children, husbands, daughters,sons or wifes from the bombs. People will abhor war when they have to give up what they value most.

If that's your attitude, why don't we cut out the middleman and just bomb some of our own children.

All in the interest of "fairness," ya know?
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If that's your attitude, why don't we cut out the middleman and just bomb some of our own children.

All in the interest of "fairness," ya know?


Shhhhhh!  :thatsright:  You know, Rush has a problem trying to illustrate absurdity by suggesting the patently absurd, only to have said patently absurd suggestion adopted as OFFICIAL DIM'RAT POLICY in relatively short order. 

Well, what makes you think that the Dim'Rats are only looking at Rush for policy suggestions?
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