Schools: Immigrant families leaving Arizona because of new immigration law

[Tucker]

If losing the illegals is going to effect AZ's tax base so much, how is it that the source of Mexico's 2nd largest source of funds is money sent home from illegals working in America. Do they make so much money that they are major contributors to revenue in both AZ and Mexico?

[DefiantSix]

If losing the illegals is going to effect AZ's tax base so much, how is it that the source of Mexico's 2nd largest source of funds is money sent home from illegals working in America. Do they make so much money that they are major contributors to revenue in both AZ and Mexico?

And how is it that a job that pays so well that they can afford to support the US, Arizona and Mexican governments simultaneously (and still be able to put enough food on the table to get back to that great job the next day) is a "job that lazy Americans just won't do"?

[Ballygrl]

I forgot to add, the left needs to stop saying that illegals either pay taxes or contribute to the economy, for every $1 they contribute they use $3 in services.

[BadCat]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[debk]

If losing the illegals is going to effect AZ's tax base so much, how is it that the source of Mexico's 2nd largest source of funds is money sent home from illegals working in America. Do they make so much money that they are major contributors to revenue in both AZ and Mexico?

Around here (E TN) the Mexicans work extensively in construction and landscaping, construction is year 'round and landscaping is 9-10 months of the year.

If they are paid cash, it's about $8-10 per hour. Which doesn't sound like that much until you realize that it's straight cash and the full amount, with no taxes taken out. They work dawn to dark, many just as day laborers. I have seen them at construction sites at 7-8 at night, sometimes working later with artificial light. "Employed" construction workers leave at 4 at the latest.

Several years ago, I was showing condos to a buyer. Went into this townhouse complex and there were 4 available in one building. I made appointments, but could only get in to see 3 of them. Same owner on all 3.

Went in the first one....2 brs. Two twin mattresses with folded blankets at the foot of each one, on the floor of each bedroom, no other furniture in the brs....the clothes in very neatly folded stackes on the floor. Nothing hanging in the closests. 2 twins on the floor in the living room, same with the clothes. There was a table with couple of chairs in the eating area, dishes in the drainer on the counter, a small tv on the table. The whole place neat as a pin. My buyers and I thought it was really strange.

Then we went in the one next door.

Exactly the same. And the same with the 3rd.

When I got back to the office....I was telling another agent about it, and was told that was what some employers will do. They will buy up a building and put their Mexican employees up, so that they are all together, then send a truck around to pick them up in the morning and return them at night. They always show up to work and work all day. Their only expenses are food and personal items.

The Mexicans are able to send most of their earnings "back home" and work to get their families moved up here.

I did see on the local news the other day, that TN legislature had put a motion through to support AZ and is discussing passing a similar bill in TN. 

[Tucker]

Around here (E TN) the Mexicans work extensively in construction and landscaping, construction is year 'round and landscaping is 9-10 months of the year.

If they are paid cash, it's about $8-10 per hour. Which doesn't sound like that much until you realize that it's straight cash and the full amount, with no taxes taken out. They work dawn to dark, many just as day laborers. I have seen them at construction sites at 7-8 at night, sometimes working later with artificial light. "Employed" construction workers leave at 4 at the latest.

Several years ago, I was showing condos to a buyer. Went into this townhouse complex and there were 4 available in one building. I made appointments, but could only get in to see 3 of them. Same owner on all 3.

Went in the first one....2 brs. Two twin mattresses with folded blankets at the foot of each one, on the floor of each bedroom, no other furniture in the brs....the clothes in very neatly folded stackes on the floor. Nothing hanging in the closests. 2 twins on the floor in the living room, same with the clothes. There was a table with couple of chairs in the eating area, dishes in the drainer on the counter, a small tv on the table. The whole place neat as a pin. My buyers and I thought it was really strange.

Then we went in the one next door.

Exactly the same. And the same with the 3rd.

When I got back to the office....I was telling another agent about it, and was told that was what some employers will do. They will buy up a building and put their Mexican employees up, so that they are all together, then send a truck around to pick them up in the morning and return them at night. They always show up to work and work all day. Their only expenses are food and personal items.

The Mexicans are able to send most of their earnings "back home" and work to get their families moved up here.

I did see on the local news the other day, that TN legislature had put a motion through to support AZ and is discussing passing a similar bill in TN. 

I'm just east of you(6 mos out of the year in Greeneville) and don't see any. All my kinfolk are in Johnson City/Jonesborough (that's why I'm in Greeneville  ) Not so much there either.

[debk]

I'm just east of you(6 mos out of the year in Greeneville) and don't see any. All my kinfolk are in Johnson City/Jonesborough (that's why I'm in Greeneville  ) Not so much there either.

Morristown and Hamblen county have a very high population of Mexicans. I know a year or so ago, Hamblen County was reported to have the highest population of Mexicans in the state. There was a big deal about steps Morristown was taking in order to process all the ID cards for those that didn't have driver's licenses.

I didn't know you were in Greenville!

[AprilRazz]

Questions for Miskie.
Why do you supose a majoriety of gays are white people.?

OK I will bite.
Simply because the majority of out gays are white. There is a stigma in the black communities about gays so a good number of them are on the 'down low'. So there is a proportionate number of gay blacks but a good number of them are still in the closet.
One good friend that is still in the closet to his family said that his grandmother told him that she would rather him marry a white woman than be gay.

So the real question is why are blacks so racist and homophobic?

[debk]

OK I will bite.
Simply because the majority of out gays are white. There is a stigma in the black communities about gays so a good number of them are on the 'down low'. So there is a proportionate number of gay blacks but a good number of them are still in the closet.
One good friend that is still in the closet to his family said that his grandmother told him that she would rather him marry a white woman than be gay.

So the real question is why are blacks so racist and homophobic?

Slavery to the white man?

As far as homophobic....maybe because for generations the black man was physically and emotionally strong, a protector of sorts, to the "weaker, more fragile" woman.

A similar attitude is held by Italians, Greeks, Hispanics, Native Americans....any culture where men have held a more dominant position in the societal structure.

Homosexuality has always been perceived as effiminate and lacking in masculinity and strength....weak.

Only in the last 30-40 years, have gay men held a more tolerable position in genreal society.

Prior to that time, gay men were mostly in the closet, and those that weren't were in the "arts" where people have inherently been more tolerant.

Lesbians were "spinsters" and not as obvious to detect, as women have lived together for generations as roommates because it was physically safer for two women to live together than alone. 

[Tucker]

I didn't know you were in Greenville!

Yup. I shoot by Knoxville. I go over to Oakridge.

I'm in MI for the summer or until my house sells. When it sells, then I'll be in TN year round.

[debk]

Yup. I shoot by Knoxville. I go over to Oakridge.

I'm in MI for the summer or until my house sells. When it sells, then I'll be in TN year round.

Cool!

You know where the exit for the mall is on the west side? I'm back that way to the south.

[Tucker]

Cool!

You know where the exit for the mall is on the west side? I'm back that way to the south.

No I don't. My GPS gets me from point A to point B. I don't pay too much attention in between points.

[thundley4]

No I don't. My GPS gets me from point A to point B. I don't pay too much attention in between points.

Man follows GPS straignt into a train.
 

[Tucker]

Man follows GPS straignt into a train.
 

I follow route to exit, not totally oblivious to my surroundings.

Hit by car, woman sues Google for bad walking directions

We've warned in the past that you shouldn't blindly rely on your GPS unit to give you directions, as people have been led astray (and nearly off cliffs) before. What about walking directions? If led onto a busy highway and hit by a car, can you sue?

That's the question being raised in a lawsuit by Lauren Rosenberg. She claims that after using Google Maps' "Walking Directions" feature on her BlackBerry (there's the problem: not Android or iPhone), she was led onto a busy highway and hit by a car.

http://www.examiner.com/x-39728-Tech-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m5d29-Hit-by-car-woman-sues-Google-for-bad-walking-directions

[thundley4]

I follow route to exit, not totally oblivious to my surroundings.

That's as bad as the joke about the old man putting his RV on cruise control and going back to make a sandwich.