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CHARLOTTE -- Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are overtaxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. ... It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.  ...
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He wouldn't have given such a short answer but the TOTUS was running hot.
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He wouldn't have given such a short answer but the TOTUS was running hot.

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Breaking those rules gets you a pair of cement golashes and a front row seat of the East River.
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wow...just wow

I couldn't believe this is the same WaPo that has been soft stroking Obama since...ever.

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CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation,


STOP THE TAPE!

Misinformation? You dolt! That "misinformation" and you so dismissively put it is what normal non-messianic non-socialist non-racist people call a "Paycheck."

I know you've never had to earn one--being Bill Ayers hand-picked protege and all--but for those of us with enough self-respect to earn our money it's a (to coin a phrase) BIG ****ING DEAL.

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...and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

If only the bill had been debated in public before passing then it would be such a mystery.

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He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

STOP THE TAPE!

It was 30 million when you wanted to cover illegals and you pushed it down to 12 million when Wilson called you out as a liar. Now it's 50 million?

Did you import people or annex Kenya or something?

Sorry to keep interrupting folks. Let's get back to the article that gets into follow-on mockery:

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A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

"Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

"What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

But, he said: "I hope I answered your question."

If the question was, "Do Republicans stand a chance in November?" then yes, yes you did answer my question.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/04/obamas-17-minute-2500-word-res.html
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