http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7854881Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 10:54 PM
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I'll stand with Eric Massa until I know it is time to step away
I've read his statement on his congressional web site.
I've read what I can from various news sources.
I listened to that rat turd, Chris Wallace, do a screed filled with innuendo and supposition punctuated by snide inflections of his grating voice.
He is not my rep. He's not even from my state. But in my view, he's a good guy who wanted to do what he thought was the right thing.
I still have several hand written notes from him from when Sparkly and I donated to his campaign back when he first ran (and lost by a whisker) to the despicable Randy Kuhl.
Hang in there, Eric. You're not alone.
He was a guy that wanted to do nasty things to other guys but they didn't want. He admitted guilt Stinky. What more do you want ? One of those "salty" personal talks ?
BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 11:00 PM
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1. Didn't the person sitting in for Keith tonight say Massa had already announced his resignation to be effective on Monday?
Stinky is having none of this !
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 11:17 PM
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3. That's correct. He has resigned effective this coming Monday.
Doesn't change my support for him.
Who supports that kind of behavior ? I don't care which party either.
merci_me (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 11:27 PM
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5. We're standing right there, too
Jim and I could have written your post word for word, except we didn't (and wouldn't) watch Chris Wallace.
About five years ago, we met Eric in Little Rock and he and my husband shared many stories about their time in the Navy and dealing with cancer and the recurrences. Since they've shared occasional e-mails.
As for the "salty language". I never heard it from Eric, though I've only talked with him in public places, but I can take "salty language" and I can give it out. Not only am I married to an ex-sailor, I was raised by an Italian, Brooklyn born, ex-Marine.
Those of us, you and I and my husband, who have strong political concerns, but also have had to face life threatening illness, need to keep our priorities in order.
This is NOT about language. It's about sexual harrassment. You people condone this ? Aren't you the first to sue if there's even a hint of that where you work ? It's okay as long as the offender gives you what you want ? Is that it ?
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 11:44 PM
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6. Chris Wallace ......
.... was a spot on DC's WTOP noozradio. They get commentators from all points on the compass rose.
We first met him in the backyard of a .... uh ..... Big Donor's Capitol Hill townhouse when he was with Wes Clark, both doing some campaigning and fundraising. I chatted with them both, and then just him for perhaps half an hour until the big money guys showed up and we got hustled off to the cheap seats.
The check I wrote that night was the first and only one I ever wrote and handed directly to the candidate I was supporting.
Was this man Stinky's claim to fame ? His brush with high society ? His bragging rights ? Did he give money to Mr. Salty Mouth ? Was that his ticket to invitation only parties ? Does Stinky dream of a time when he enters the political arena ?
I love a good mystery.
merci_me (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 12:15 AM
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7. Our meeting was in Little Rock
when we had hoped you and Sparkly would be able to be there, too.
Eric was there from Friday night, through the whole weekend. Sunday morning, there was a fundraiser breakfast for Eric's up coming first run for congress. Just a few months before, Jim had just finished another year of chemo and radiation in his first recurrence of stage 4 Hodgkins lymphoma, so he and Eric spent a fair amount of time through a few days, trading cancer war stories and Navy tales.
Jim was hit in 1993, 2004 and last year. There is never a day, when you can put it totally out of your mind. You have to be prepared to minimize stress and be ready to fight it. So, when Eric says he has to put his health first, he's doing the right thing and we support him.
I'm sorry but you're an idiot and so is Stinky. I would be ashamed to even know someone that foul but then I'm not a DUmp monkey. He's also using his cancer as an excuse. Paging John Edwards.
And we have another one that approves of bad behavior. Wow, shock me.
Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 01:10 AM
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8. Me too Stinky
Janet and I campaigned for him in his district both times he ran. Eric is a passionate no nonsense guy who stands with regular folks against powerful special interests. You can read all of his emotions on his sleevee, there is no deception in him. Eric was never afraid to take an important stand no matter who opposed him. This is very sad and we are pulling for him.
Yeah, he had passion. For other men. His wife didn't know. No deception huh ? You fool.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 10:51 AM
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10. He said he was guilty. Yes. But guilty of what?
Offensive language? That's what he's copped to.
I suspect we'll never know. Of course, rat turds like Chris Wallace are dropping all sorts of smarmy comments.
As I said, I'll wait before I turn away.
Word is he copped to more than offensive language. So much more. More than he wanted his family to know. What more do you need Stinky, a video ? Is that what you WANT ?
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 03:39 PM
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14. The following is *pure speculation* on my part
Based on what I've read and heard, there was some incident between him and a male staffer. The right wing is putting a lot of emphasis on the staffer's gender, the implications be obvious.
But take a step back and we have two facts:
He planned to not seek reelection based on his third (or fourth?) cancer recurrence. Fair enough. He has a well know history of Hodgkins. This means he is already predisposed to not being in the Congress any more.
He then hears about a staffer filing an ethics beef against him. He owns up to "using bad language" and resigns immediately instead of fighting the ethics charge.
So what can we conclude from this, in the absence of more information?
First, we can accept it on face value. He said something that was strong and that was offensive to the staffer. What could that have been? Let's say the staffer was gay. Let's say Massa called him a gay slur. That would not be out of character for a life long sailor. Not a good thing to have done. But not rare. And not acceptable.
Or
Let's continue to assume a gay male staffer. An angry man might say something along the lines of "Keep that up and I'll <perform some gay sex act on the man>" Again offensive. Again, not incredible for a lifelong sailor. Still not rare. Still not acceptable.
I'm sure I can speculate more, but I think my point is clear.
It could also have been what the right wing is implying - an unwanted gay sexual advance on a male staffer.
Any of those things, when in the context of a man already predisposed to no longer serve in the Congress, and an early departure is understandable.
I don't condone any of what I've speculated, but none of it would cause not to stand by someone. I am not suggesting any of this be celebrated, but I am saying it is not sufficiently bad to cause me to shun someone.
But again ..... this is all speculation.
BWAHAHAHAHA !!!! Trying to cover up stink.
What's considered "bad" in Stinky's eyes ? I don't want to know.
This all sounds like Stinky and wife lost their connections to the finer side of life. Where deals are made and deals are struck. Where Stinky will deal with a married man sexually harrassing another man as long as he's a Democrat.
Stinky stinks.
