Oscar Wilde being cowardly

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Oh my.

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 11:59 AM
OSCAR WILDE, THE LARGE-PROBOSCISED PRIMITIVE
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Are Democrats really a party of cowards?

When Republicans are in control, they govern like Attila the Hun.

When Democrats are in control, they barely govern at all. And they don’t seem to have a problem betraying their principles.

I’m not talking about the blue dog conservative Democrats we’re stuck with. I’m talking about the mainstream, majority of the Democratic Party. WTF is wrong with them?

There’s an old saying about power: “Use it or lose it.” And I fear that the Dems are on the verge of losing it this year. If this happens, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

There must be a reason as to why the Democratic Party, after having won control of the congress and the White House, seems to be spending their days living in constant fear of Republicans, cockroaches, and other vermin.

There must be a reason for their failure to govern with dignity, honesty and force. And if so, I’d like to hear what you think that reason is.

villager (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 12:00 PM
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1. The evidence would seem to speak for itself, yes?

liberaltrucker  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 12:05 PM
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2. In a word: Yes.

You summed it up pretty well.

Kitsune (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 12:07 PM
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3. No, we just have a fifth column in our party. 

Unfortunately the fifth column is running the party, and collaborating with the Republicans to actually try to make Democrats seem worse than Republicans.

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 12:13 PM
OSCAR WILDE, THE LARGE-PROBOSCISED PRIMITIVE
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6. It strikes me as insane that a handful of blue dog Dems and corporate owned Dem whores can actually screw us all this much.

Why is the majority of the party not fighting back? Why are they letting themselves be bullied into going along? Then again, perhaps that's the definition of cowardice.

Kitsune (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 12:33 PM
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8. It's how the nature of the electoral system affects power structures. 

Because any vote for a third party is 'wasted' there's too much incentive to stick with a corrupt organization. Otherwise I'd happily desert the Dems for the Greens or another party that I felt actually stood a chance of cutting through the blatant corruption in the federal government. But any attempt to break with the party superstructure is essentially foredoomed to failure unless a massive crisis takes place, and this may be what we're seeing on the GOP end of things, as the truly rabid loonbars begin to escape their handlers' control and try to primary the official party nominee out or run against them in the general election.

This is why rank-and-file Dems keep voting for a party that doesn't have their interests at heart. It's either them, or the Republicans, who are marginally worse. The Democratic party will have to get worse before we see a tea-party-esque break with the Democratic party superstructure and the potential rise of a party that actually has the interests of non-corporate entities in the front of their minds. How much worse, I don't know.

samrock (351 posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 12:09 PM
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4. In a word .. yes..
 
Well at least those that manage to get themselves elected to congress...

notadmblnd  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 12:09 PM
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5. I think thereare a lot of cowards that work very had to squelch any sort of gutsy moves by saying we have to be better than them, we have to take the high road because we're more righteous. I think we need to get down in the mud like they do and kick repuke ass.

NRaleighLiberal  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 12:21 PM
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7. not cowards. overly triangulating and beholden to $$$ as well. and not as nasty and cutthroat. In other words, a paralyzing combination that ensures little gets done beyond the platitudes and ideas.

I am fed up and disgusted at it.

ljm2002  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 01:03 PM
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9. They are not cowards!

They are quite brave when it comes to defending the rights of their corporate benefactors over those of the rabble.

piratefish08  (751 posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 01:05 PM
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10. 98% of them, yes. Their level of cowardice is directly related to their corporate funding.

Tierra_y_Libertad  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 01:08 PM
THE LIBERTINE TERRORIST PRIMITIVE
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11. Cowards? No. Just professional party hacks defending their place at the trough. 

tom_paine (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 01:25 PM
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12. Cowardice? Complicity? Corporatization? Some combination? Something else?

Does it even matter any more?

All that matters is the result, as we phase through the different realities the Bushies and their RW Lie Machine/Corporate M$M Fusion creates, ever more right-tilting and disconnected from reality.

Oregone  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-06-10 02:37 PM
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14. Only if you believe they actually are liberal

If their rhetoric is showboating electioneering, then its no wonder they don't follow through (then rubber stamp right-wing things when otu of power)

Greyhound  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-06-10 02:39 PM
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15. Not cowards, traitors.

Not all of them, of course, but more than enough. They pursue a hidden agenda that differs little from that of the republicants.