Their pain is like a rich dark chocolate cake with stripper glitter icing...

[dutch508]

 

quinnox (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-16-10 04:06 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x185028
The blame for bad results in Nov. will lay on Dems and Obama
 They blew it quite frankly. They had a chance to pass health care with 60 votes for months and they never could finish it off. Obama deserves a large share of the blame for not using the bully pulpit more often, (I'm tired of excuses being made for him) and the Dems in the Senate deserve a large part of the blame for dragging their feet.

I saw a thread saying if the American people are so dumb to put republicans back in office then they deserve what they get.

But in my opinion a big reason they would do this is the failure of the Dems to enact the real change that was promised. I can't really blame the American people for trying something different when the team in office can't get it done.

What a shame, the Democrats had a golden opportunity and it went down they drain due to their own incompetence, unless a miracle happens and they get their shit together and it turns out to be not as bad as it looks in the Nov. election.

  Sooo funny...so so funny!

FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Feb-16-10 04:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. Talking past tense about nine months into the future
 must be your fault. You should admit that, at least.

Self defeatists usually defeat themselves.

uh....what?

FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Feb-16-10 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. Things are always "wrong"....what's new about that?
 The point is that it is our own attitude that will infect others.....
and help rationalize why folks should stay home,
when their asses should be out there talking to others,
and fighting like mad...especially considering the vast amount of time that we have.

It's like you've surrendered, put your hands up in the air, and walked out of the house,
and the police hasn't even gotten there yet....and in fact, worse than that,
the crime you are admitting to having committed hasn't even happened yet.

This is what helped defeat us in MA apart from the fact that we didn't even notice,
and then we were too slow and too late to react. At that point, we said one week ahead
of time that all was lost. And still there were enough of us out there that called,
and did what we could, and at the very least, the margin of loss wasn't as high as what
had been predicted just a week before.

Look, We've got 9 months......
This project can't be about who can blame who the fastest,
cause we are all in there, and we will all be affected.
If you think we ain't got shit now (although I beg to differ),
just wait till once you assisted in "willing" a Republican takeover
with your doomsday talk.

So I'll ask you, was there something you wanted to share with us that you were going to do
to make a difference, or is that not part of your thought process here?....cause if not,
it should be.

If you want some suggestions on how you, yourself as an individual can make a
difference, let me know.

 

FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Feb-16-10 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. Many house members did what they were supposed to do......
 as we have a boatload of bills that they passed and originated from the President,
and are backstopped at the door of the Senate.

So it is the Senate who are killing us......
and so that is who we should be aiming at.

As for attempting to make a doomsday post full of blame into something welcome and positive,
that ain't why other websites that cannot be named are sending posters out to literally sell
an Eeyore mindset to progressive sites. That isn't why the media is talking nonstop of how we are going to get our ass kicked (they are definitely working towards that end).
They want us to feel defeated before any vote is cast....before even, the first commercial airs,
before the Health Care reform is actually put away never to be seen again.
They actually provide the talking points to their posters....because yes, they want to infect
the websites....and whether you know it or not, we actually do matter in these things. Those who
claim that posting on an Internet site don't affect anything are wrong, and underestimate
where those folks that are the activists that would make the difference reside.

DevonRex  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-16-10 04:12 PM
Response to Original message
4. WTF is wrong with you? nt

 

Malikshah  (1000+ posts)        Tue Feb-16-10 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
9. Usual suspects. Usual shit-stirring.
 Get's real old. Hell, it was old years ago here...

Evacuate? In our Moment of Triumph?

[The Village Idiot]

That is pretty funny.

[vlad335]

Hey Dummies! The MSN is doing what they can to help.

I turned on CNN today for the first time in years. Over and over was the theme of "gridlock" and connecting it with the republicans. Worked it's way into every political story as the new democrat party line. The only problem is the democrat's have HUGE majorities.  However, its the republican's fault that the countries being run into the ground! (I guess it must be difficult to place blame on Bush.) This is the new talking point and they were hammering it with all their might. Even had a piece about the senate and the need to do something about filibusters! WTF! Joseph Goebbels could not have topped the propaganda barrage that I witnessed today.

[USA4ME]

For trying to be positive about Dear Leader, the cheerleaders are a bunch of totalitiarians who shame anyone who doesn't walk in lock-step..  The frog kitty primitive is one of the worst.  The quinnox primitive, maybe for the first time in its sorry life, was facing reality in the face and saying what it looked like.  Can't have that in "the reality based community."

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[miskie]

Hey Dummies! The MSN is doing what they can to help.

I turned on CNN today for the first time in years. Over and over was the theme of "gridlock" and connecting it with the republicans. Worked it's way into every political story as the new democrat party line. The only problem is the democrat's have HUGE majorities.  However, its the republican's fault that the countries being run into the ground! (I guess it must be difficult to place blame on Bush.) This is the new talking point and they were hammering it with all their might. Even had a piece about the senate and the need to do something about filibusters! WTF! Joseph Goebbels could not have topped the propaganda barrage that I witnessed today.

this doesn't surprise me at all-

The simple truth is that in most cases the Democrats can still pass anything they want without a single Republican vote in the House, and occasionally may need only one to pass anything through the Senate, and that was just recently.

So, the media is now in full duck and cover mode to try to stop any further congressional losses, and with the 'rats jumping ship like.. well, rats - it sends a signal that even the media cant stop whats coming.

[vlad335]

Watched a couple more political shows tonight.

It is official! All the countries problems can be layed squarely at the feet of the republicans. The system is broken due to GOP wrangling as they called it. The lefty talking heads were in perfect lockstep with "The Party of No" propaganda on everything I watched. The filibuster has suddenly become a threat to our republic. The "Tone in Washington", etc. Funny how they could have cared less about partisanship just a couple weeks ago. Now the Dems see this train ready to derail and THEY KNOW THEY OWN IT. They desperately want the repubs on board now.

This administration and dim leadership are simply incapable of governing this nation. All they know is political payoffs, deflection and then to fix blame elsewhere.

[AllosaursRus]

Every DUmpster DIver over at the island will swear up and down the people want universal health care, yet every poll I have seen speaks just the opposite!

These ball bearings just won't admit they are the minority! What will it take to make them realize we just don't like them or their stinkin' philosophy?