primitives discuss a third-party president in 2012

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Oh my.

The things the primitives think about, to busy their minds.

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:01 PM
#11 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; PEDRO PICASSO
Original message
 
We're being primed for an "Independent Party" president in 2012.

I'm pretty much convinced of it. The Democrats don't seem to have a clue, they cave to every GOP whiner, and all the while the teevee talking heads talk about how it's the INDEPENDENT vote that is the only thing that matters. Joe Scab is setting himself up for a run, calling himself an "Independent" every chance he gets, although he is totally, 100% GOP (except for the embarrassment of actually saying he is GOP).

Scott Brown wins and his first words are about the "Independent" victory in Massachusetts, even though he's 100% GOP. My GOP friends all profess total ignorance about George Whatshisname...Bush who? Never heard of him, didn't vote for him...they're all "Independents" now. They don't even pretend to be "Libertarian" anymore, as no one was buying that bullshit anyway.

Nope, it's all about the Indis now. They're the hot new trend, and we can expect more and more GOPpers (and scaredy-cat Dems) to take up the mantle. The media is priming us for it. Independents are the only hope for the future.

And you know what? The way Reid and Pelosi are running things (with a little no-help from Obama), I don't blame anyone for giving up on the two established parties. Except for that most people don't understand that a GOPper or a Dem running as an Indi is still just a GOPper or a Dem...they just won't wear elephant or donkey lapel pins.

The stage is being set for the disintegration of the parties so that people don't know who to officially hate anymore. Now that the corporations (Scarborough's boss, GE, comes to mind) are free to bankroll anyone they want in any way they choose, party affiliations are meaningless. "Independent" candidates are the flavor of the day, although they'll be Indi in name only. Same shit, different logo.

Get ready for it.

Oh, I dunno.

I think Pedro Picasso's being a little girl again.

Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:09 PM
#09 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE DEFROCKED WARPED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #1

6. I expect Palin to and you might as well admit that vapid, fading beauty queen does have star power among the ignorant.

I'm going to be watching the teabag convention next month pretty closely. If it doesn't turn into a total donnybrook, we're going to see the birth of a new political party there that will draw the disillusioned voters from both parties.

This is what conservative Democrats are doing to us. People are sick to death of watching them waffle and sell the public out.

The GOP, on the other hand, is actually glad to see Palin and Bachmann drawing the crazy people away from their party. They'll regroup and with the horrible USSC ruling last week, fill their coffers to bursting and quite possibly emerge as the more viable party in 2016.

Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 04:21 PM
#09 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; THE DEFROCKED WARPED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #25

35. Not only that, but I think the party establishment would do whatever they had to do in order to make sure she didn't get very far as a GOP contender during the primaries. I doubt they'd have to dig too deep to find something, either.

I think what they're hoping is to rid their own party of the worst elements while trying to siphon off disillusioned Democrats who are sick of being sold out by party conservatives.

It might work out for them, but there's a very big danger the crazies could take over completely.

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:18 PM
#11 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; PEDRO PICASSO
Response to Reply #11

15. They do the same thing here in CT...

Most voters are "Independent," but we always vote for Dems (except for Governor, a peculiarity here in the Northeast states). I think most people just don't want to admit anything to some schmuck pollster. Shit, I can't even commit to where I want to go for dinner next weekend, so it's no surprise that many people don't want to be pigeonholed into a party affiliation.

In case anyone hasn't caught on yet, the primitives are discussing Sarah Palin.

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 PM
#11 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; PEDRO PICASSO
Response to Reply #14

18. And she's someone you can have a beer with! 

Have a 30-pack and maybe she'll do ya! You betcha!

(Not my own wish, mind you...just what imagine many of her supporters must think. They certainly don't like her for her brains).

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:22 PM
#11 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; PEDRO PICASSO
Response to Reply #17
 
20. You miss the point...there will not be any "Independent" candidate.

There will Democrats and Republicans lining up for the new infusion of Corporate money, calling themselves anything their sponsors want them to be called. The difference in governance will not happen. Only the logos. It's a big ****ing sham being played on all of us.

Oh my.

[The Village Idiot]

Maybe Ralph Nader will run again.

Lyndon LaRouche still alive?

I'm thinking about joining the Prohibition Party myself. lol.

[miskie]

Stupid primitives -

There will be no viable third party movement - ever. It just doesn't work that way.

I do think that the Tea Party movement is causing out of power Republicans to assess exactly why they are out of power, and that the GOP will be receptive to the fundamental causes of this movement - Less Government, lower taxes. The other points that seem important- Jobs, National Security, Immigration are already part of the GOP, so it should be a fairly easy conversion as the party tries to reinvent itself.

Which, BTW, is the opposite of what Liberals do.

When you are out of power, you tend to want to do more of what got you into that position.

For example, look at the Spin on Scott Brown's victory from your guys -

Brown is a vote for Universal Healthcare ?
Brown was swept in on the same wave that swept Obama in ?
People voted for Brown because they were angry at Republicans ?

and the most stupid thing I heard just today....

People voted for Brown because they hate the idea of a filibuster ?

What the hell are you people smoking ? - Seriously.

 

[Specbid]

The stage is being set for the disintegration of the parties so that people don't know who to officially hate anymore. Now that the corporations (Scarborough's boss, GE, comes to mind) are free to bankroll anyone they want in any way they choose, party affiliations are meaningless.

Scarborough's (sic) boss? Isn't that the same boss of that cocksucker obermann and the dyke madcow?

[delilahmused]

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 PM
#11 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009; PEDRO PICASSO
Response to Reply #14

18. And she's someone you can have a beer with!

Have a 30-pack and maybe she'll do ya! You betcha!

(Not my own wish, mind you...just what imagine many of her supporters must think. They certainly don't like her for her brains).

Absolutely classless. For men who are supposed to be "feminists" they seem to have no problem disparaging women who are living the life feminists always told women they could have...only she doesn't whine about it. Misogynistic pig!

Cindie

[USA4ME]

Atman
 
We're being primed for an "Independent Party" president in 2012.

I'm pretty much convinced of it.

Poor Pedro.

When Pedro is conviced, it's equivalent to WmPitt's 24 business hours and surety that Coakely would win in MA.

Bank it!

.

[SilverOrchid]

I would totally love to have a beer with Palin!

[AllosaursRus]

It's absolutely mind boggling the logic they can put together in order to make themselves feel like they are the smartest people on the planet, ain't it?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!111111

[Spirit of Ronald Reagan]

Maybe we should dig up Ross Perot again, libs loved it when he ran (resulted in 8 years of ugly intern stories).  Let's see if the green party can muster up someone with a little more draw than nader or that cynthia chick that likes to punch security guards.

[Chris]

Maybe we should dig up Ross Perot again, libs loved it when he ran (resulted in 8 years of ugly intern stories).  Let's see if the green party can muster up someone with a little more draw than nader or that cynthia chick that likes to punch security guards.

The DUmmies blamed Nader for 2000.  What goes around comes around.

[dandi]

Atman  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 PM

Response to Reply #14

18. And she's someone you can have a beer with!

Have a 30-pack and maybe she'll do ya! You betcha!

(Not my own wish, mind you...just what imagine many of her supporters must think. They certainly don't like her for her brains).

Yeah, and you buy Playboy only for the articles....   

You know, DoUchenozzle, it must suck to be you.  Sarah is everything you're screeching harpies are not:  Kind, smart, loyal, articulate, and beautiful.  I highly doubt that Mrs Palin would be classless enough to get slobbery drunk much less get slobbery drunk and **** a limp wristed liberal male.  She's married, she only likes men.

Stay classy, atman.

[Ralph Wiggum]

What is TexasToast's obsession with Joe Scarborough?  It seems that he mentions him in nearly every post.

Look, I listen to the radio at work all day.  It seems he's glued to MSNBC all day.  How is that possible, when he's such a high-level Democrat operative?  I didn't realize they let the envelope-stuffers watch TV while they work.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Absolutely classless. For men who are supposed to be "feminists" they seem to have no problem disparaging women who are living the life feminists always told women they could have...only she doesn't whine about it. Misogynistic pig!

Cindie

What do you expect from a group that gives unqualified support to a bunch of misogynist sand-rats and cannot intellectually argue against gender-selective abortion (which overwhelmingly victimizes female children)? DUmmies only care about wimmenz rights as long as it secures a voting bloc or they can sniff up some "sexually liberated" coed.

I thought the last paragraph of the OP was unintentionally instructive:

The stage is being set for the disintegration of the parties so that people don't know who to officially hate anymore.

Ah...we are to be "officially" instructed who to hate.

What are you wearing to the Progressive Kristallnacht this year?

Now that the corporations (Scarborough's boss, GE, comes to mind) are free to bankroll anyone they want in any way they choose, party affiliations are meaningless.

Isn't GE also Olbermann's, Maddow's and Schultz's boss as well? 3 to 1. I wonder where GE's political biases REALLY lie?

[The Village Idiot]

What is TexasToast's obsession with Joe Scarborough?  It seems that he mentions him in nearly every post.

Look, I listen to the radio at work all day.  It seems he's glued to MSNBC all day.  How is that possible, when he's such a high-level Democrat operative?  I didn't realize they let the envelope-stuffers watch TV while they work.

The idiots who watch MSNBC think Joe Scab is some top tier GOP leader or something. It's really funny, I don't think they have a clue how little influence MSNBC is actually having.

Joe Scarb is a nothing.

[Ralph Wiggum]

It's really funny, I don't think they have a clue how little influence MSNBC is actually having.

The ratings (or lack thereof) certainly reflect that.

[AllosaursRus]

What do you expect from a group that gives unqualified support to a bunch of misogynist sand-rats and cannot intellectually argue against gender-selective abortion (which overwhelmingly victimizes female children)? DUmmies only care about wimmenz rights as long as it secures a voting bloc or they can sniff up some "sexually liberated" coed.

I thought the last paragraph of the OP was unintentionally instructive:
Ah...we are to be "officially" instructed who to hate.

What are you wearing to the Progressive Kristallnacht this year?

Isn't GE also Olbermann's, Maddow's and Schultz's boss as well? 3 to 1. I wonder where GE's political biases REALLY lie?

GE's bias lies with whichever politician they can buy that won't tax the piss outa them!

Oh, and I don't believe for a second you're a timid woodland creature, Snuggle. One of the worst animal bites I've ever had was from a frikkin' Jack Rabbit! I was tryin' to save the little bastard from my cat, too! Ungrateful little prick!

[The Village Idiot]

GE's bias lies with whichever politician they can buy that won't tax the piss outa them!

Oh, and I don't believe for a second you're a timid woodland creature, Snuggle. One of the worst animal bites I've ever had was from a frikkin' Jack Rabbit! I was tryin' to save the little bastard from my cat, too! Ungrateful little prick!

They probably donate to every leftist cause under the sun

[miskie]

Oh, and I don't believe for a second you're a timid woodland creature, Snuggle. One of the worst animal bites I've ever had was from a frikkin' Jack Rabbit! I was tryin' to save the little bastard from my cat, too! Ungrateful little prick!

Look At The Bones !

[delilahmused]

I would totally love to have a beer with Palin!

Yeah, at a beer summit. In the White House. Promoting American micro brews and welcoming the new conservative majorities in the house and senate.

Cindie