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NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« on: January 12, 2010, 06:58:29 PM »
Officials shut down a busy US port and urged people to get out of town on Tuesday after several drums containing a powerful explosive were accidentally punctured.
 
Port police knew the shipment of pentaerythritol tetranitrate (Petn) was coming from overseas and had extra security in place.

But as the cargo was being transported, a forklift operator accidentally punctured containers of Petn, the highly explosive substance used in a Christmas Day airline bombing attempt.
 
A small amount of the Petn leaked out, but crews contained the spill and hazardous materials teams were cleaning it up and repackaging the broken barrels, port officials said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6977431/NC-port-shut-down-after-containers-with-explosive-punctured.html


First the Christmas Day incident and now this........WTF is going on in this country :thatsright:

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 07:21:30 PM »
Nine do not get punctured by accident. It is far too much to be coincidence. I am thinking some terrorists got some PETN out of this and hoped that an explosion would cover their tracks.

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 07:34:19 PM »
Nine do not get punctured by accident. It is far too much to be coincidence. I am thinking some terrorists got some PETN out of this and hoped that an explosion would cover their tracks.

Take the tin foil off dude
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 07:56:22 PM »
Take the tin foil off dude

Yep, pretty much concur.  You get a pallet of those, and it's real easy to puncture multiple containers.
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 07:57:49 PM »
Although I think if I was the forklift operator, I'd be a bit extra careful.

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 08:08:21 PM »
Yep, pretty much concur.  You get a pallet of those, and it's real easy to puncture multiple containers.

I'm laughing at the sheer panic in the tones of the newsies stirring the pot with all this hype.  Yeah, PETN is a highly explosive compound.  It's also more stable and considerably less sensitive to heat and shock than nitro or TNT.  That's why it's considered weapons grade stuff: it can be transported relatively safely compared to it's twitchy predecessors.  I would imagine other than the insurance folks climbing all over them for the damaged shipment (and the cops that were put on alert when the port alerted them it was coming in) everybody involved has to be looking at this as pretty much a non-event.
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 08:49:36 PM »
Although I think if I was the forklift operator, I'd be a bit extra careful.

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 07:41:15 AM »
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 12:13:56 PM »
Boss to forklift driver, "Dammit boy! When I said stick a fork in it I didn't mean...."

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 01:09:15 PM »
You'd think with all the extra security precautions and alerts in advance they could have managed to line up a forklift driver who could actually read and wasn't a drunken dumbshit, but by golly I'll bet he was at least a good union man.
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 06:08:49 PM »
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The Tuesday incident is thought to have been accidental and came after cargo in 20-foot containers was offloaded from the ship Lehmann Forester to the dock with the port’s gantry crane. The ship’s offloading gear had been scheduled to transfer the cargo to the dock, but it was not working. It was taken from the dock into a warehouse and on to an awaiting contract transfer truck.

The cargo originated in Amsterdam and was destined for Detroit, and the ship reportedly left port in Spain.

Port officials said vessel operations at state ports are handled by private stevedoring companies and no State Ports Authority employees were involved.

The officials said hazardous materials are handled routinely at the Morehead City Port under all prescribed regulations for safe handling and transportation. But a worker said such shipments are rare, involve high security and are done after all other operations at the port are closed.

What are the damn odds it was heading to Detroit
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 06:10:36 PM »
What are the damn odds it was heading to Detroit

Because there aren't many international flights into Dearborn

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 06:17:32 PM »
You'd think with all the extra security precautions and alerts in advance they could have managed to line up a forklift driver who could actually read and wasn't a drunken dumbshit, but by golly I'll bet he was at least a good union man.

Really the driver was drunk?

He was a Union man?

Damn that's two things I haven;t heard yet about this incident, then again I'm not even close to the area, so I doubt I'd see or hear anything on this

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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2010, 09:01:11 AM »
Really the driver was drunk?

He was a Union man?

Damn that's two things I haven;t heard yet about this incident, then again I'm not even close to the area, so I doubt I'd see or hear anything on this



Lighten up, Francis.  Though in a port operation, what do you think the odds are he was a union worker?
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 07:26:44 PM »
Lighten up, Francis.  Though in a port operation, what do you think the odds are he was a union worker?

In Eastern NC, not very likely.

Though since the company is from Canuckistan, then he may have been, yet we are a right to work state.

Still haven't heard anything on Union or condition of employee here on the local news
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Re: NC port shut down after containers with explosive punctured
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2010, 09:57:07 AM »
In Eastern NC, not very likely.

Though since the company is from Canuckistan, then he may have been, yet we are a right to work state.

Still haven't heard anything on Union or condition of employee here on the local news

First I have heard of this, but I did watch that mayor of Boston, Old Mumbles rant about LPG coming into Boston Harbor on Fox this week.

I have had to be away from the PC for a while and keep thinking, this is odd.   I know about Ports, unions, and fork trucks, I cannot understand how this could have happend as stated.

Could be the driver knowing what the cargo was,  was being so over cautious his nerves gave out.
Like those guys that have to disarm a bomb and their hands begin to shake.

Could have been the way the containers were stacked easy to get in, hard to get out.

Question is who loaded the containers and in what Port. How were they loaded, was there a sequence to the loading that had to be followed in reverse.?

Remember the YOU TUBE video of a fork driver taking out a warehouse of booze I think when he hit a bottom rack.?     If one looks at that video one can see that it was not the drivers fault that a bump would cause that much damage.  The racks themselves were defective, not anchored correctly, had they been, the driver would have taken out perhaps a case or two at point of impact.

Before you guys jump on me, I have seen some interesting fork truck problems in my time, double pallets 8 feet high being dumped because the loaders stacked items incorrectly. People run over because they were making a mad dash for the break room and didn't notice the truck or hear the horn on the truck warning them.    The drivers get gray hair at an early age from these things.

I don't care if that driver paid dues to the Monkey Humping Union, my sympathies go out to him/her.