gigantic primitive down to 438 (update Christmas Eve)

[franksolich]

http://drmcdougall.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=11960&start=570

The gigantic primitive, who's down to 438 pounds, or 437.8 if one wishes to nitpick about it.  And a bowel movement indicator (I guess that's what "BMI" stands for) of 54.6, down from 64.9. 

Eighty-two pounds down, 237 more to go, since December 2007:

Ege Bamyasi
December 23, 2009

Hiya, weespeck! Glad you are enjoying the journal.

I can't remember offhand if you have been over on Letha's board much yet, but if you go over to mcdougalltalk.com and check the Galleries tab, I'm slowly posting all kinds of my favorite music over there. I'll have things from the Sixties to the Oughties (and maybe the Teens, if anything decent should happen along!), in genres from British Invasion to Progressive Rock to New Wave to Alternative to Metal to Indie. No Yes yet, but the Gentle Giant track I posted is a really good one.

debbie, I did in fact misrepresent when I said that I'd be on an MM-type diet. I never really understood that the MM was based on only one starch. I thought it was possible to mix the starches as long as they were the centerpiece of each meal, and the recipes were kept simple. So then, I guess what I'm doing now is just a basic MWL-type diet. That's fine with me. The important thing for us is that neither of us gets bored, and that we mostly buy inexpensive foods.

I will be exercising every single day I have the energy to do it, until I'm averaging at least 60 minutes per day. Then, I will start taking one day off per week, but will continue striving to increase my times until I'm a certifiable gym rat. If I had proper use of my arms, I'd be using dumbbells too. It annoys me to no end that I can't do much of anything involving my upper body. Hopefully this frozen shoulder condition will go away with further weight loss and I won't need surgery, but I haven't improved at all in quite some time now so I just don't know.

Daffodil, oh yes I'm still coughing! I'll try that lemon and honey thing just as soon as Jeanette can pick up a couple lemons. Probably day after Christmas on her way home from work. In the meantime, I find it humorous in a sick sort of way how I don't cough when I'm breathing hard and fast on the recumbent, but when I sit here typing or on the bed playing console games I almost get the dry heaves from hacking so hard. I'm not the sort of person who vomits, ever. But I have to wonder if it won't happen at least once before this thing I have finally goes away.

So, on Monday everything seemed fine. I made it through 13 minutes on the recumbent and had plans to go back for 10 - 12 more in the evening. Needless to say, I never did. By the time the sun had gone down, I was ensconced in bed with a throbbing head and legs which barely worked. I continued resting a lot -- and nursing a throbbing skull -- through most of yesterday as well. Today I finally felt human again. I've had one session on the recumbent and I still feel pretty good. I'm going to shoot for another before going to bed tonight.

Jeanette is out foraging at Fresh & Easy again, for salad and all kinds of produce on sale, as well as some stuff that Joe wants from there. Potatoes are on sale for 99 cents for a 10 lb. bag. Can anyone guess what that means?

[BlueStateSaint]

And a bowel movement indicator (I guess that's what "BMI" stands for) of 54.6, down from 64.9.

 

Actually, I think BMI is "Body Mass Index."

[franksolich]

Actually, I think BMI is "Body Mass Index."

I know, but as you know, sir, I like to mock people who think they're hip, cool, trendy, with-it, using acronyms.

I had a teacher in the fifth grade, the best teacher I ever had, who alleged that people who use acronyms are lazy.

[Carl]

It is just pitiful and pathetic what he puts that woman through.  

[franksolich]

It is just pitiful and pathetic what he puts that woman through.  

What concerns me greatly is that the gigantic primitive, now reduced to using decimal points, has been stuck at 438 since, well, forever now.

[Carl]

What concerns me greatly is that the gigantic primitive, now reduced to using decimal points, has been stuck at 438 since, well, forever now.

He is already starting the "I can`t do it" excuse with the exercise cycle.

He did 13 minutes? 
It seems that impresses him but 13 minutes would only start to get a heart rate up,another 20 after that and then he is doing something.
At that rate he is fooling himself into thinking he is gaining,deserves a rest and then thinks he can eat extra as a payoff I bet.

[Texacon]

Jeanette is out foraging at Fresh & Easy again, for salad and all kinds of produce on sale, as well as some stuff that Joe wants from there. Potatoes are on sale for 99 cents for a 10 lb. bag. Can anyone guess what that means?

'Nuff said.

KC

[GOBUCKS]

Except on MWL you can consume the starch (es) of your choice through out the day. oats for brekkie

From the behemoth's journal, a new low. Of all the irritating, nauseating, cutesy terms I've ever heard, calling breakfast "b*****e" may be the worst. Another detailed description of the ulcers on his legs would be easier to stomach.

[Chris]

From the behemoth's journal, a new low. Of all the irritating, nauseating, cutesy terms I've ever heard, calling breakfast "b*****e" may be the worst.

Those people need to be beaten with the nearest saucepan.

[BlueStateSaint]

Those people need to be beaten with the nearest saucepan.

Naah . . . a wooden spoon would do the trick, too.

[Chris]

Eh. They're too easy to break.

[Tucker]

I wonder what they're having for Christmas dinner?

[BlueStateSaint]

I wonder what they're having for Christmas dinner?

Whatever it is, he'll probably have enough for four starving kids . . .

[NHSparky]

438...that's like two of me, plus a sack of potatoes.  And yet the simplest exercise he could do is pushing himself away from the table and taking a walk around the block.

[franksolich]

438...that's like two of me, plus a sack of potatoes.  And yet the simplest exercise he could do is pushing himself away from the table and taking a walk around the block.

I dunno what the deal is.

He's been stuck at circa 438 since.....July.

Losing weight takes a tremendous effort, and one wishes success, but it seems to me that if one's been on a plateau for five months, perhaps it's long past time to re-examine things, to find out why what's supposed to happen, isn't happening.

[NHSparky]

I dunno what the deal is.

He's been stuck at circa 438 since.....July.

Losing weight takes a tremendous effort, and one wishes success, but it seems to me that if one's been on a plateau for five months, perhaps it's long past time to re-examine things, to find out why what's supposed to happen, isn't happening.

Coach, I've been on that train.  It's as hard as one wishes to make it.  The true test is KEEPING the weight off.

[franksolich]

Coach, I've been on that train.  It's as hard as one wishes to make it.  The true test is KEEPING the weight off.

Well, the thing that perplexes me is that when I try something, of course I routinely expect setbacks and detours and delays, but if it's something that goes on too long, I step back to see what I'm doing wrong.

But of course the gigantic primitive's a liberal, and we all know how that goes, trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

[Carl]

I dunno what the deal is.

He's been stuck at circa 438 since.....July.

Losing weight takes a tremendous effort, and one wishes success, but it seems to me that if one's been on a plateau for five months, perhaps it's long past time to re-examine things, to find out why what's supposed to happen, isn't happening.

He makes his own way in life..

13 minutes of exercise and then in bed for a day and a half or more.
Sitting typing or playing console games.
He doesn`t have a clue what his caloric intake is and says he eats a lot of potatoes.
I am not sure that is a good or bad thing but no doubt he isn`t considering the oil that they are cooking in,the likely lbs of butter or sour cream he is butting on top yet deciding he hasn`t had many calories.

He is doing really nothing much to help himself and what little bit he is lets him deceive himself more.

No matter how much he goes on about it I doubt he wants to give up being waited on and feeling sorry for himself.
That is where his heart and mind is at so that is where he will keep his body.
The more I read the less sympathy or empathy I can muster for the useless blob.

[franksolich]

He makes his own way in life..

The more I read the less sympathy or empathy I can muster for the useless blob.

Ditto.

The gigantic primitive's attitude is strikingly different from the attitude of the droopy underwear primitive, the "Tobin S." primitive on Skins's island.

The droopy underwear primitive, once massive in size, seems to be succeeding because he has a more positive attitude about life and people.

[diesel driver]

Those people need to be beaten with the nearest saucepan.

Cast iron skillet works pretty good....

[Texacon]

Gigantor is lying about his intake of food.  Period.  Worst of all he is lying to HIMSELF about his intake of food.  Unless and until he realizes he is deceiving himself he will never lose the weight.

I have a wife who started her journey almost 2 years ago.  She has lost 70 pounds at this point.  She has not hit her goal but she is still working toward it and has managed to keep off what she has lost despite several holidays and a couple of vacations.  The most recent being Disney World last week.  She is my hero in the weight loss category and I have watched her struggle for over 20 years. 

Until Gigantor gets his mind right he will NEVER lose the weight.

KC

[Traveshamockery]

Gigantor is lying about his intake of food.  Period.  Worst of all he is lying to HIMSELF about his intake of food.  Unless and until he realizes he is deceiving himself he will never lose the weight.

I have a wife who started her journey almost 2 years ago.  She has lost 70 pounds at this point.  She has not hit her goal but she is still working toward it and has managed to keep off what she has lost despite several holidays and a couple of vacations.  The most recent being Disney World last week.  She is my hero in the weight loss category and I have watched her struggle for over 20 years. 

Until Gigantor gets his mind right he will NEVER lose the weight.

KC

I have been trying something new and so far, so good.  I have stopped dieting.  I have stopped restricting what foods I can or cannot eat.  I just eat a lot less of the things I love and more of the things that I like that are better for me.  Since starting this, I feel much better physically and that alone makes it worth it. 

And kudos to you for being such a supportive husband - my husband is the same way and it makes the struggle easier. 

I'm not much into the new age therapy stuff but there is a book with a quasi-hypnosis/meditation CD with it that really is amazing and very effective.  If my husband had bought me this book I'd probably be offended, but I bought it for myself. 

http://www.amazon.com/Can-Make-You-Thin-Revolutionary/dp/1402765711/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1

[Texacon]

I have been trying something new and so far, so good.  I have stopped dieting.  I have stopped restricting what foods I can or cannot eat.  I just eat a lot less of the things I love and more of the things that I like that are better for me.  Since starting this, I feel much better physically and that alone makes it worth it. 

And kudos to you for being such a supportive husband - my husband is the same way and it makes the struggle easier. 

I'm not much into the new age therapy stuff but there is a book with a quasi-hypnosis/meditation CD with it that really is amazing and very effective.  If my husband had bought me this book I'd probably be offended, but I bought it for myself. 

http://www.amazon.com/Can-Make-You-Thin-Revolutionary/dp/1402765711/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1

Good for you AND your husband.  My wife started 2 years ago on NutriSystem and it has changed her life.  At first it was a REAL struggle.  She had some really rough times with it but as she has progressed and realized they were giving her real food just in normal proportions it has become easier and she has been able to 'wean' herself off the NutriSystem food and onto regular stuff ..... just realizing she didn't NEED to eat all the stuff she was given. 

I'm very pround of her!  It hasn't been easy and her support system is a huge part of what she does.  It isn't something anyone else can do for her and for that I congratulate her and her efforts.  As a matter of fact I just deep fried a turkey for her success!!  LOL  Well not really.  It is for a party we are going to but she will have some.  She now knows what she can and cannot have and how much of each. 

Good luck to you Traveshamockery.  I am praying for you and your husband.  It is a tough journey but you can do it.

KC

[Carl]

In the long and unpredictable road that is life I have become acquainted with several folks that have weight and eating issues.

A dear Free Republic friend who used the slim 4 life plan to get her life on course along with a fitness website (My Fitness Pal) that allows one to log in their calories as well as provide some support.

Even still one can tell from there those that are in need of a lifestyle change and those that have a deeper issue of some kind.
Food is to keep one alive..it has no chemical component to it that makes one feel better somehow.
If that is happening then a person needs to address the reasons why it does.

So it is with Kirk here...he is always in a fall back stage of whoa is me.
Until he gets past that if he can or WANTS to then the thing is futile.

[The Village Idiot]

He is already starting the "I can`t do it" excuse with the exercise cycle.

He did 13 minutes? 
It seems that impresses him but 13 minutes would only start to get a heart rate up,another 20 after that and then he is doing something.
At that rate he is fooling himself into thinking he is gaining,deserves a rest and then thinks he can eat extra as a payoff I bet.

He was out of breath just taking the two steps to the exo-bike