Dems agree to drop gov't-run insurance option

[Hawkgirl]

but the bill to stop government spending for abortion is scratched.

WASHINGTON – Democratic senators say they have a tentative deal to drop a government-run insurance option from health care legislation. No further details were immediately available.

But liberals and moderates have been discussing an alternative, including a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, talks centered on opening up Medicare to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the large government health care program that currently serves the over-65 population.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Abortion opponents failed to inject tougher restrictions into sweeping Senate health care legislation Tuesday, and Democratic leaders labored to make sure fallout from the controversy wouldn't hinder the drive to pass President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The 54-45 vote over abortion took place as Democrats, in daylong private talks in the Capitol,

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The amendment that Nelson, Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and numerous Republicans proposed would also have barred insurance plans from covering abortions except in the three categories if any of their policyholders received federal subsidies. It also would have required insurance companies that offer no-abortion plans to make available a policy that offers such services.

In all, 50 Democrats, two Republicans and two independents voted to kill the abortion proposal. Thirty-eight Republicans and seven Democrats favored it. 




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091209/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

Being pro-life, this seriously angers me....secondly...it looks like I'll be retiring at 55 since I can get free healthcare.

[Carl]

Medicare is already going broke and unless it has changed provides a very limited coverage.
That is just plain stupid to propose such a thing and would require massive taxes.

[Mike220]

Dropped for now.

All bets are off at reconciliation, though.

[bkg]

I don't believe it's gone. That makes no sense. What replaced it? A coop? I don't wanna read... too fustrated.

[NHSparky]

Don't believe it for a second until the bill goes back to the House.

[5412]

but the bill to stop government spending for abortion is scratched.

WASHINGTON – Democratic senators say they have a tentative deal to drop a government-run insurance option from health care legislation. No further details were immediately available.

But liberals and moderates have been discussing an alternative, including a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage. Additionally, talks centered on opening up Medicare to uninsured Americans beginning at age 55, a significant expansion of the large government health care program that currently serves the over-65 population.

<snip>

WASHINGTON (AP) — Abortion opponents failed to inject tougher restrictions into sweeping Senate health care legislation Tuesday, and Democratic leaders labored to make sure fallout from the controversy wouldn't hinder the drive to pass President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The 54-45 vote over abortion took place as Democrats, in daylong private talks in the Capitol,

<snip>

The amendment that Nelson, Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and numerous Republicans proposed would also have barred insurance plans from covering abortions except in the three categories if any of their policyholders received federal subsidies. It also would have required insurance companies that offer no-abortion plans to make available a policy that offers such services.

In all, 50 Democrats, two Republicans and two independents voted to kill the abortion proposal. Thirty-eight Republicans and seven Democrats favored it. 




http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091209/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

Being pro-life, this seriously angers me....secondly...it looks like I'll be retiring at 55 since I can get free healthcare.

Hi,

Just how damn stupid is congress anyway?  Immediately there will likely be millions of women under 65 who are not working, who's husbands have retired, drop their insurance and go on Medicare.  Hell, I just wrote a check for $850 for two months premium to Blue Cross for my wife.  Why would I do that when she could go on Medicare if I drop the coverage.?

That is nuts for congress to do something like that.

regards,
5412

[bkg]

They're not stupid... Hell, Bawney Fwank came out and said they knew they couldn't do this all in one year... Next go around they will lower it to 45... then 35... then eventually have their single payer fiasco. It's a process, and they are very dedicated and patient. Something that (no offense) most conservatives are not.

[Oceander]

A is still a , no matter what you call it, or how much lipstick you put on it.

[Crazy Horse]

A is still a , no matter what you call it, or how much lipstick you put on it.

Don't be so quick to judge...........but I think the one on the right may be a wooden equus caballus

[DefiantSix]

A is still a , no matter what you call it, or how much lipstick you put on it.

Impressive, but I like the Mk.II version better...

[Oceander]

They're not stupid... Hell, Bawney Fwank came out and said they knew they couldn't do this all in one year... Next go around they will lower it to 45... then 35... then eventually have their single payer fiasco. It's a process, and they are very dedicated and patient. Something that (no offense) most conservatives are not.

All I want for Christmas ....

The political head of the biggest committer of crimes against humanity in our day and age; heck, it doesn't even have to be on a silver platter - wood would do quite nicely.

[Freeper]

But liberals and moderates have been discussing an alternative, including a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage.

Public option just under another name.

From what I heard on hate radio today this "private insurance arrangement" will be non profit. Meaning some company will have to be nice enough to offer this. If they can't find one all they have to do is say "look we tried, so now we will have the public option".


As for the abortion part I knew the senate would drop that part and we would end up with taxpayer financed abortions by the time this mess was done.