primitives discuss vegetarians, God, Scriptures, marijuana

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7139790

Oh my.

We all know how this is going to go.

bbernardini  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:39 PM
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In today's paper: vegetarians are "ANTI GOD", and people should "repent" and vote Republican.

From the comment section on this page:

http://www.dailylocal.com/articles/2009/12/02/opinion/s...

The samples referred to in my subject line:

"Sandy, let us not forget the REASON the animals were put on the earth to begin with- NOT to watch over, but to EAT.

Maybe some of these outspoken ANTI GOD people would (not) agree with me, but I do believe the bible made THAT clear."

" - Tex "This was not what they expected." . . . Change we can believe in, yes we can. All you dopes who voted for the liberal socialists last fall? Told ya so. Repent, and vote Republican, or be lost. "

Welcome to southeastern Pennsylvania.

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 05:42 PM
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1. Well the bible says "dominion"

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. - Genesis 1:26

Dominion means that animals are our subjects. Kind of a King/Subject relationship if you will.

Now how many Kings eat their subjects?

If a King did eat their subjects, what would you think of that King?

Granted - I am an Atheist and a Meat Eater - and I know full well I'm a hypocrite

MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:49 PM
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6. Even more amusing

The bible tells Adam and Eve to be vegetarian:

Genesis 1:29 - "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." (for meat = for food)

Genesis 1:30 - "And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so." (sounds like man and animal were treated equally here--both instructed to eat plants "for meat"/for food)

That's KJV, no less. Quote that to the bible-thumping meat-eaters and watch their heads explode

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 05:54 PM
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11. Unless they are Seventh Day Adventists

And they will agree with you - as well as your thoughts on pacifism

StarfarerBill  (581 posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:47 PM
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2. I'm a vegetarian, an atheist, and a socialist, so there's my answer to those fine folks.

The defrocked warped primitive:

Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 06:07 PM
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13. I'm all of that and I have a better answer for them. 

(_|_)

That's the only answer people like that ever deserve.

The unfrocked warped primitive's all that, plus an ex-nurse.

YOY (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 05:48 PM
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3. What the **** is "Tex" not getting from Obama that he got from Bush or would get from McCain?

Does he feel threatened by a piss poor HCR bill like Lenin is knocking on his door or some other pap?

Assholes have no idea what the **** a "liberal socialist" is.

So ****ing stupid...

bbernardini  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:51 PM
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8. Here's what Tex said:

"A year ago, many of my friends were looking for change. Now that a year has passed, they have all removed their Obama/Biden stickers. Two have lost their jobs and another one may lose his job. This was not what they expected."

YOY (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 05:53 PM
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10. Like they would have their jobs with McCain?

Seriously. Those jobs might actually come with O in a few years. The investments have been put down...if they come to anything we'll see.

eShirl  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:48 PM
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4. If he wants to read what the Bible says about what God gave Man for food...

http://bible.cc/genesis/1-29.htm

<< Genesis 1:29 >>

New International Version (©1984)
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then God said, "Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
God said, "I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruit with seeds. This will be your food.

King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

American King James Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

American Standard Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:

Bible in Basic English
And God said, See, I have given you every plant producing seed, on the face of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit producing seed: they will be for your food:

Douay-Rheims Bible
And God said: Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed upon the earth, and all trees that have in themselves seed of their own kind, to be your meat:

Darby Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb producing seed that is on the whole earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree producing seed: it shall be food for you;

English Revised Version
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat:

Webster's Bible Translation
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.

World English Bible
God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food.

Young's Literal Translation
And God saith, 'Lo, I have given to you every herb sowing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree sowing seed, to you it is for food;

EDIT: I take it to mean then that God is fine with pot brownies?

Angry Dragon  (613 posts)       Wed Dec-02-09 05:58 PM
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12. I take it to mean then that God is fine with pot brownies?

Have not had one of those for many moooons...........

KamaAina (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-02-09 05:48 PM
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5. "If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?"

Have there been any Caribou Barbie sightings near you recently?

joeybee12  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:51 PM
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7. Aw hell, you can't argue with stupid...

...serious, can you have a rational discussion with these people who obviously aren't rational?

Sort of like decent and civilized people feel about the primitives.

dusmcj  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:53 PM
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9. it's not West Bum****, it's West Chester - bwahahahaha

HopeHoops  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 06:18 PM
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14. Dumb****s are everywhere, including SE PA.

But seriously, that's just ****ing stupid.

[Carl]

I live in a pretty secluded and rural corner of the world so may not be fair to say but I don`t think I have ever seen anyone push what diet they live off except vegetarians.
Not all of them of course but there is a certain element that wants to be in your face about it.
Never saw anyone who eats meat do that.
It becomes almost a bizarre obsession to some.

[JohnnyReb]

Forgive me father for I am about to sin....now where's that ham?

[Chump]

MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-02-09 05:49 PM
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6. Even more amusing

The bible tells Adam and Eve to be vegetarian:

Genesis 1:29 - "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." (for meat = for food)

Genesis 1:30 - "And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so." (sounds like man and animal were treated equally here--both instructed to eat plants "for meat"/for food)

That's KJV, no less. Quote that to the bible-thumping meat-eaters and watch their heads explode

You should've kept reading.

Genesis 9
 1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

 3Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

 4But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

I love when anti-theist DUmmies preach Scripture...

[Freeper]

You should've kept reading.

I love when anti-theist DUmmies preach Scripture...

They also miss the parts where a lamb is sacrificed and eaten in a lot of Jewish rituals.

[Chump]

They also miss the parts where a lamb is sacrificed and eaten in a lot of Jewish rituals.

Unless it helps them make a point about barbarism or whatever nonsense they're preaching.  You know, the whole selective reading thing.

[IassaFTots]

Well, you would have thought they really would have taken care to read that one a little more carefully.  I am surprised the potheads don't have that one highlighted.

Genesis 9
 1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.

3Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

 4But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

[dutch508]

They also miss the parts where a lamb is sacrificed and eaten in a lot of Jewish rituals.

We were dicussing Laws yesterday with the retard TNO.
Check out Liviticus, as it explains exactly what to do with the sacrifice and how to prepare it.